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Old 03-25-2008, 08:03 AM
cpmac
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Jerry:

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1 John deals with the spirit of antichrist, which was even in existence in the first century. 2 Thessalonians (which refers to him as the son of perdition, the same title Judas had when possessed by Satan) and Revelation 12 also teach/imply that this man will become possessed by Satan at the halfway point of the tribulation (3 1/2 year point), when Satan no longer has access to Heaven to accuse the brethren before God, so he goes on a rampage against all the Jews and those that got saved during the tribulation.

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2 Thessalonians deals with the man who becomes THE Antichrist, the one-world leader opposed to God who sets himself up as God and institutes the mark of the beast. This is the man that the book of Revelation refers to as the beast.
The reality of a future seven year "Great Tribulation" cannot be proved from the Scriptures. It was made up by dispensationalists to give false substance to a futuristic agenda which on the surface exalts the present-day "Jews," but in fact decieves them into believing that they have a future in a glorified nation without the need to believe in Christ. (That is the worst kind of anti-Semitism.) The name of it was borrowed from Christ's words in Matthew 24, and the length (seven years) was extracted from Daniel's prophecy of Christ's one week ministry on earth, which was cut short by the crucifixion.

"Beast" is mentioned about 155 times in Scripture. In most cases, it refers to an actual animal, although in some prophetic passages it may refer to a kingdom or empire, but not, to my knowledge, a human being.


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Revelation 12 also teach/imply that this man will become possessed by Satan at the halfway point of the tribulation (3 1/2 year point), when Satan no longer has access to Heaven to accuse the brethren before God, so he goes on a rampage against all the Jews and those that got saved during the tribulation.
I cannot find the man who will become possessed by Satan in Revelation 12. Did you have some other passage in mind?

You are correct that Revelation 12 speaks of Satan having been cast out of heaven, and having no more access. However, I believe that dispensationalism, which teaches that, may have the timing wrong. Notice verse 10, "...a loud voice in saying in heaven, Now is come salvation,and strength, and the kingdom of God, and the power of His Christ." Satan, therefore, was cast out of heaven at the time salvation came, and that was after the cross. The kingdom and Christ's power came shortly after the cross. That will not happen again in the future.

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all the Jews and those that got saved during the tribulation
The Jews did get saved during the tribulation, but that tribulation was the time of testing and purifying the believers, which ended just before the second tribulation began about 66AD, not the future "seven year Great Tribulation," which is a creation of futurists.

Rev. 17:8 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

The "beast" is not a man who becomes "Antichrist." He is the devil himself. Only spirit beings are cast into, and then released from, the bottomless pit.

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