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Old 08-10-2008, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Biblestudent View Post
Who's the WE?

2 Tim. 2:12, WE suffer
WE shall also reign with him
if WE deny him
he also will deny US
2 tIM 2:13 if WE believe not, yet he abideth faithful:

The WE is obviously believers.
BELIEVERS suffer
BELIEVERS shall also reign with him
some BELIEVERS deny him
the Lord will deny some BELIEVERS the reign (see context)
some BELIEVERS later "believe not", yet the Lord abideth
faithful to His BELIEVERS.

That's why believers can never be saved by their own faith, for sometimes they "believe not" (doubt,unfaithfulness, faithlessness - just like the prophets, apostles, and early believers). But we are given the FAITH OF CHRIST, which "abideth faithful".
Why is it then that the unbelievers aren't give the faith of Christ? And why if the devils of hell believe in Christ Jesus that they aren't saved as well?

Peace and Love,
Stephen