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Old 07-11-2009, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripdood View Post
I was raised in a Bible Believing home. My dad never once in all the time I was around him ever used anything but a King James Bible (Old Scofield). Dad was raised a Mennonite and was very strong in his beliefs. We attended a Baptist church because it was closer to home. Dad also attended there until later in life, he and mom went to a Church of God (Andersonville Indiana flavored).

When I was called to preach, he always supported me though we did have some lively discussions about some things. The one we discussed the most was Eternal Security. Dad believed you could lose it, I didn't then and I still don't to this day.

I gave the above just for background of where dad was coming from. I was never able to give him a solid answer about the following verses:

Ex. 32:32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

Rev. 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

I am asking this out of curiosity as well as seeking more understanding myself.

I believe we are sealed in our salvation and we can not lose it, I just never could explain these verses to dad.
Rip, Revelation is Tribulation doctrine, as is everything from Hebrews on, and Hebrews-Revelation is aimed at the Jews in the tribulation, on the verge of the restoration of Israel, and not to the Body of Christ today. Much of the dispensational discussions in this forum regards the different ministries to the Jews and to the Gentiles; the ministry today is to both equally(Eph. 2 & 3). We have eternal security, we are selaed unto the day of redemption, our sins are blotted out now, we are not written in any "book" Note Peter's statement to the Jews:

Ac 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Many today practice the erroneous "confession to God" of sins already forgiven that I John 1:9 states quite clearly must be done. In the Tribulation, those saints will have to confess their sins to obtain forgiveness.

The Jews and Tribulation saints are and will be written in "the book of Life", we are part of Jesus Christ's Body.

Grace and peace