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Originally Posted by chette777
Bob Dyan was one of my favorites growing up in the 70' yet I am not sure he is realy saved at best it is just a profession. by the way Bob Dylan is not even his real name his real name is Robert Allen Zimmerman. he is a Jew beleive it or not. he never gives glory to Jesus once that I ever heard of. and here is some highlights he has been maried twice the last divorce in 1992, he was controversal when he revealed his conversion from Judaism to Christianity in three albums. Introduced the Beatles to marijuana after his conversion. not much of a Christian testimony now is there.
Worshipis one thing and entertainment is another as I stated before. I post was more against the worship using worldly means and methods. even Stephenos used the words worship with miinus one Reggae or as he called it DUB reggae.
When our minds have been made perfect along with our bodies and we stand before God we will know how to worship him correctly. untilthen we need to keepit simple, pure and holy. living in a fear of God more than a looseness that has penitrated manyChristian organizations.
Salvation and differnt Bible version. go back through and read the wayt he NIV and KJV present the gospels and you will see there is a difference.
there is a group here using the NIV English and it's Tagalog versions. the people have been taught a works based Salvation. they were brafing devils into bags over the last few weeks. Their Regggae, Rock nad Jazz worship time went on for two hours before and 30 minutes after their 15 minutes preaching of the word.
so are these peopel really saved by the same Gospel. things that are different are not the same. Different Bibles version will promote different Gospels.
these people say they love Jesus but they are in disobedience to God word. and while being disobedient week in and week out (some for years) they continue to have great spiritual experiences with what they believe to be Jesus and the Holy Ghost caused by the most part these long musical worship services.
I would rather you fill your hours with Christian lyrics or entertainment than to the lyrics of the world. but leave it to entertainment which is hollywoods profession. when it comes to worship we need to understand we worship a Awsome powerful almighty God and a little respectful fear in holiness is something we should always show when in worship. and that worship needs to be focused on what Christ has done. Not on what i have done, or how I am feeling should be done, or what I am doing at the moment.
By the way I wanted to put together a CD compilation of 101 ways to sing Amazing grace. I have heard t sang many different ways. i have heard the traditional classical style, to Giligans Island theme song, to Raw Hide, to two or three rock renditions both soft and hard Rock, a reggae version, a jazz rendition, a black Gospel rendition.
I am sure someone will come up with a Tecno version and a Rhythym and Blues version and most likely Grunge rock and a Goth version will pop up to.
I am sure you can find it done in tribal music because some missionary used wha they had. I bet you could find it in Carabean and Calypsso style too.
But these are inventions of men, that please mens senses. it may not necesarily please God's Senses.
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Language is an invention of men, not to mention every single instrument of music on earth (unless perhaps we were given them by angels). I think one could say that every form of worship that has come forth from the hands and mouths of men is an invention of men. But do these facts make these things unpleasant before God? Is not our God the God that searches the heart? If my gospel reggae edifies me and brings me closer to God, then how possible can you judge this? I've said many times, the fruit reveals the root. I've heard of so called Christian Metal concerts where the kids get violent and do terrible things, thus one could say the fruit reveals a rotten root. However, when I sing unto my God to a reggae dub track and I have an intimate moment in the knowledge and joy of Jesus Christ, then one could say that the fruit in this case reveals a good root. I don't smoke ganja, nor do I promote or condone it. I don't practice paganism or sorcery of any kind (I do take ibuprofen all the time though), nor does the music I listen to make me want to do those things. My music cultivates a positive attitude about living in Christ, and an attitude where I want to share the light that I have in Christ Jesus with others. So anywho, I'm not trying to defend what I'm doing, just explaining to those that might be lurking and reading this, that they should put more trust in the Word of God, and not in the traditions of men.
I also agree that there should be a difference between our worship of God, and the music that we enjoy throughout the week (although we certainly can enjoy worship music throughout the week as well). The Mennonite I fellowship with are very much so against listening to anything but acapella worship music. I respect them in this, but what I respect most of all is that at least most of them agree that it doesn't have to be this way, but rather it just is this way with them, since they feel safe with these boundaries.
Oh and one last thing, the Scriptures talk of the two fold purpose of spiritual music.
Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Our worship is for us, and to glorify God. These two things in this case are directly related. As we learn of God and His ways through our psalms, hymns, and songs, we become closer to Him, and this in turn brings glory to Him by the lives we live in this knowledge and wisdom and the outpouring of righteous works we do as a result. I also believe that it simply pleases Him to hear us worship Him for the simply beauty that is found in His absolute righteousness, and His most undeserved mercy.
Anywho, that's all I got (lol).
Peace and Love,
Stephen