[Winman]

Fredoheaven

Thank you. This is not about being right, it is about what the Bible really says. I can tell you, I want to know the truth come what may. And to me this is why knowing the King James Bible is the infallible Word of God is so important. Our very souls depend on God's Word. I cannot believe that a perfect God would not leave us a perfect Bible. God does not make errors or mistakes. And God is loving and not willing that any should perish. So, He is going to leave us a perfect and certain Word that we may find Him. I don't understand people who do not believe in an infallible Bible. What is their concept of God? Would He leave us without a sure way to find Him?

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Back to Ezekiel, I believe this also speaks of Satan.

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

We know that this is speaking of an angel "annointed cherub". We also know this angel was in the Garden of Eden. So surely this must be "that old serpent" as shown in Rev 12.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Notice that everything goes from past tense to future tense after the word "sinned" in vs. 16. The next word is "therefore" which is future.

So, it is in the future that Satan will be cast out of the mountain of God. It is future that Satan he will be destroyed from the midst of the stones of fire. It is future he will be cast to the ground. It is future that God will bring forth a fire from the midst of him.

This fits with all other scripture. Now we can easily explain Satan accusing Job, Joshua, and the brethren (Rev 12:10) before God. Satan will be cast out, but he has not been cast out yet.

When Jesus said he saw Satan fall as lightining, it must have been future prophesy.

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

The Lord is telling his disciples that through him we have victory over Satan.

Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. 21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: 22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.