Well fellas, I think we need to agree to disagree. As my old pastor used to say:
Those convinced against their will, are of the same opinion still
I understand that this is a very important topic. But it is obvious that we are not all going to agree. I myself have argued long on other subjects (I'm sure you remember). But after awhile you have to give it a rest.
The best thing you can do is post scripture supporting your personal belief, and trust the Holy Spirit to guide the readers.
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