I may eventually give some time to your lengthy post here, George, BUT I didn't reopen this subject, others did, AND since I studied this passage in such depth -- including carefully considering EACH ONE OF THE VERSES from 1 Corinthians 11:2-16, so you aren't likely to surprise me with a new interpretation I haven't already considered -- I am VERY convinced of my viewpoint and I doubt very much that you will change my opinion. Apparently that's not OK with you that I maintain my viewpoint, and you don't want to hear anything more I have to say about it, but we CAN end the discussion, as I thought had already occurred. If others are going to reopen it I'm very likely to answer them. OR I may just quit this forum altogether since I've come to see that I don't see eye to eye with the majority on some important issues here and there's no point in constantly locking horns.