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Old 05-27-2008, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by toiwnz View Post
This I know. I know Jesus came once and I know He's coming a second time. I'm just want to know where the scriptures are that says the second coming is a two phase thing were some believers are taken before the tribulation and some believers after the tribulation.
Hi toiwnz,

I think maybe before understanding why Jesus is coming again, you may need to understanding that He is in two phases. He is first coming in the air to receive His curch.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

God is dealing with His church now. He will deal again with the nation of Israel AFTER he receives His church, His bride. He came in the clouds for His bride. He will come to the earth in judgment of Israel and the nations.

Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

I believe these verse identify Jesus Christ coming in the clouds, then coming again TO the earth. Then you must ask yourself why in the clouds, then to the earth. These questions are answered when we understand who in particular the Lord is dealing with, how, and at what point in time. God has a plan for His church, and a plan for Israel. These plans are best understood in light of dispensational theology. The whys of these questions will then fall into place.

Last edited by Debau; 05-27-2008 at 07:12 AM.