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Old 06-29-2009, 04:35 PM
Bro. Parrish
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Mary, welcome to the forum...

You are correct about the NIV it's a terrible translation, in fact the word "sodomite" was removed, and this is no surprise since the translation team included a lesbian and a homosexual.


I'll see if I can add a few thoughts for you to consider...


24 "And Noah awoke from his wine,
and knew what his younger son had done unto him."


Yes, that is the key verse, it indicates something happened to Noah, and more directly that his son DID SOMETHING TO HIM, but it is not specific so it's hard to be dogmatic about some of these things.

However, please notice the word "UNCOVERED" below...

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken;
and he was uncovered within his tent.


If you compare the use of the word "UNCOVER" in later passages of the Bible you will see this is associated with a sinful act, for example in the context of Leviticus 18, you can see how many times that term UNCOVER is used and the context is various types of incestuous relations (food for thought)...

6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.

10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.

11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.

13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.

14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.

15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.

17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

19Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.

Last edited by Bro. Parrish; 06-29-2009 at 04:42 PM.