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Old 06-25-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredoheaven View Post
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

So what can you say about this verse? I am figuring what this verse means. Do I need to hate everybody for the sake of Christ? In the other thread, someone suggested that I need not twist English. I know you Englishpeople/brethren alike, would you please tell me if hate/hatred needed to grow me spiritually?
Of course not. Love is the clearest evidence of a changed heart and mark of true discipleship, brother.

John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

This is the APPLICATION we can make to ourselves. By comparing scripture with scripture we know for an absolute fact that hating your father, mother, wife, children, brethren, sister, and yes, even yourself is not the desire of Christ.

But there is a very clear and strong message to all who desire to love and follow Christ. Our devotion and love for the Lord Jesus Christ should be so great and superior that compared to all others and even to our self it would be hatred. The point is that Jesus Christ is preeminent in all things and He should be loved first and last. The interesting thing is that when we love Jesus Christ with our whole heart we keep his commands...like love one another as He has loved us.

Luke 14:26-27 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.