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Old 06-22-2009, 09:40 AM
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And, if you will be so kind as to forgive me for asking so many questions, but, since you're a preacher, I think you have answers for my many questions:

These verses, have been in my mind for years, and I've wondered about them:

1: Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2: Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3: And this will we do, if God permit.
4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7: For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9: But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
10: For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
11: And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
12: That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

What does perfection mean, here? and, laying on of hands?
I've known entire churches that base their worship on laying on of hands to do everything, from casting out demons, to giving someone the ability to speak in tongues.
The other verses sound to ME, like you CAN lose your salvation.
I understand that God is all powerful, and that we can't earn our way to Heaven, I UNDERSTAND that, and agree with it.
I also know that I know, that men and women, have choices to make, and responsibility for their choices, and sometimes, SOMEtimes, there is
a penalty for a bad choice, right here on earth, but, sometimes, if a person falls away,and rejects Christ, their penalty is eternal torments in flames and agony.

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