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Old 03-04-2008, 02:48 PM
ploughboy
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Default God loves sinners

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Jn.15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit , and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

we don't choose God he chooses us.
This verse in context was choosing the disciples for ministry not salvation

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Eph. 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world , that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

This verse in context is teaching after salvation. When we are saved we become holy and without blame before him in love. It is not a choosing to salvation. It is what we get because of Salvation.This was God's great plan before the foundations of the world. That whosoever believes would become.

Salvation is simple "LOOK AND LIVE" OBEDIENCE.

Christ says Come, Calvin says you can't.


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