[QUOTE=grace to me;1275]
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if ye were of this world has to be God's elect because he has chosen us out of the world therefore the nonelect hate you.
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so do you believe God chose who was to be lost and who was to be saved?
If that is the case then why did He say "God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Or do you believe the "any" is the elect? If that's the case look at Romans:
Rom 8:29 For whom he did
foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
God predestinated us according to foreknowledge. Not because He picked and chose. It was because God is omniscient and knows those who will reject Him and those who will accept Him. So do you believe that God only died for the elect?