Thread: Hebrews 10:25
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:29 PM
Pink Frog
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Thanks to all for the replies, and thanks Jerry for posting the scriptural references relating to church membership. Perhaps that will clear a few things up for some folks.

The Bible says to be "swift to hear and slow to speak" so I have delayed any response that I might not choose my words in haste and cause any unnecessary ill feelings or confusion. I am interested in the reasoning behind the statement that I have completely taken the Biblical meaning out of the passage.

I could see the point if I had some sort of agenda to get around Paul's exhortation to gather as a group of believers, but this is not the case. I stated that this interpretation is a valid one. My second interpretation is IN ADDITION TO, not IN PLACE OF the first. I apologize if this was not made clear.

It is quite obvious to anyone who can read plain English that we are instructed to assemble ourselves as a physical congregation of believers. But if we always limit the scripture strictly to the literal meaning, I am afraid we are sorely limiting God's ability to reveal things to us through his Word. And please don't misunderstand, I'll have to say "AMEN" to what Denny said about taking any one verse out of context and making it say anything we please. It's a sad fact that people today are using God's Word in such a manner. If we all had a nickel for every time that has happened we'd be rich! Interpreting God's word requires spiritual discernment. (I Corinthians 2:10-14). It is very true that people take verses and twist them to say what they want to hear rather than what God wants them to hear, but I think everyone will agree that when this happens, it creates a clear contradiction with other scriptures, in which case the offending party must twist additional verses around. In effect, they have to prop up one lie with another.

I realize that we all aren't going to see every verse in the same light, but for me, When I read Hebrews 10:25 it stresses the importance of me being faithful in gathering with a group of believers and it also stresses the obligation that I, as a Christian, have in striving to add to my faith and become more Christ like, to assemble myself as a soldier for Him, to put on the whole armour of God, and by stepping out on faith and following his spirit, I learn how to use that armour against the "fiery darts" of satan. I believe we have to put forth some effort to live for Christ and that he will bless our efforts. We draw strength from trusting in God and this strength allows us to overcome satan. Satan wants nothing more than for us to stop "assembling" our armory because he knows that's how we overcome his temptations.

I'll be honest, most people will not like what I'm about to say, but too many churches today have lost much of their power with God because their members have stopped "assembling" themselves. Oh, they assemble themselves in the literal sense, but quite frankly, they'd be just as well off to assemble at the Wal-mart to do the week's shopping. (That is, until they get to a place that they are willing to admit that they have strayed from his will, repent and start following after Him) Churches who have power with God have members who live for him and members who live for him look to Him for leadership and guidance and work to add to their faith every day in order to reach a closer walk with Christ. I am, by no means, convinced that God can get full glory from a church full of members who don't strive to live for him. They have a form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof.

In conclusion, if the Bible teaches us that we are to attend church regularly, but doesn't teach us that we are to live a Godly life and work to deny the flesh that we might magnify the characteristics of Christ in our own lives and help to lead others to Him, then yes, I have taken the Biblical meaning out of the passage. Furthermore, with this reasoning, I can also get the fullness of what God intends for me to see in this verse from modern translations which calls into question whether or not God really choose every specific word in the KJ Bible for a reason--which was the original purpose of the discussion: to demonstrate the richness of each and every word in God's Word, the King James Bible, versus modern translations, when viewed with the spiritual eye. And frankly, it doen't matter how pure His word is if you aren't going to be led by Him as you read it. I'm a fallible creature and need all the help I can get so, as for me, I'll take what God shows me and apply it to my life as best as I possibly can. For those who fully trust in Him, He will reveal his scripture in a manner that will meet that person's specific needs at that specific point in their Christian walk. Just because two people don't see scripture exactly the same doesn't mean the Biblical meaning has been removed by one of the parties. Rest assured, God isn't going to show you something that contradicts his word in another place. Anything that God shows you will do nothing but further magnify Him and the rest of his word. Acts 5:38 teaches us that if something be of man it will come to naught, but if it is of God, it cannot be overthrown. I don't believe anything that I said in my second interpretation contradicts any other part of God's Word. If it does, perhaps you can point it out.