[Steven Avery]

Hi Folks,

There are multiple problems with trying to use Scrivener's TR as a standard that is any way above the English of the King James Bible. Imho, #1 alone is sufficient to close the matter.

1) The text itself was simply reverse-engineered from the King James Bible, trying to find Greek word sources in various TR editions. Thus it was dependent upon the King James Bible, which was the master text.

2) F.H.A. Scrivener approached the text with much confusion personally. Matthew has discussed this some, with emphasis properly on the Revision, I will simply mention that Scrivener did not consider Acts 8:37 and the Johannine Comma as scripture, and thus was involved in the direct attack on God's word. Even if in many other places he defended the Traditional Text against corruptions.

3) The reverse-engineering attempt hits some snags, both in Greek text and in translation. You might look at a combination of the following sources to determine each one.

Matthew's writings,

Examples discussed similarly on solid KJB forums. Will and Teno have addressed this some.

Jay Green discussion
http://www.preteristarchive.com/Stud...green_j-p.html
Careful study, however, will show that this present text does not agree 100% with the text used by the KJV translators, though it virtually always does so

Some of the Jay Green concerns may be translational, e.g. words in italics that are implied in the Greek that do not require a Greek direct word source. I would double-check every example from Jay Green before using it directly in a post, as his own approach is also subject to scholarly and paradigm weaknesses.

Shalom,
Steven