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Originally Posted by chette777
thre is your problem in understanding the scripture literally.
1) you come to the verse asuming that dead means unsaved/lost.
2) there are only two books. written in the books is both the book of works and the lambs book of life. a name is written in the books, and they were judged by what was written in the books. following Gods simple logic, if their name is written in the books Plural) that is what they are judged by and then they go to heaven, if their name is only writen inthe book of works then they go to hell. they are judge out of what is written inthe books not book. and there is only one book of works not two or more.
3) you have salvation the same in every dispensation (so I suggest you follow George's advice and read the links he suggests), but understand all salvation has an eliment of faith involved. a requirement if they believed God in the OT was to do something generally for Israel it was to perform sacrifices at the prescribed times that God set forth or observance of Laws, including the ten commandments were required for salvation. all put one commandment is rewritten by Paul for Christians today (9 out of 10 are taught by Paul and they are not part of salvation).
so do us a favor find any verse inthe OT that has them looking forward to Jesus Christ for salvation? if you find one this would mean that they knew aforetime that their Messiah was to be sacrificed. we know it was prophecied but they did not undertand it. 1 Cor 2:8 tells us had the princes of this world (that would be all the prophets, kings, priests and Satan) known it (the Lord to be crucified), they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
so if everyone in the OT who was saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ finished work of the cross (of which they could not becasue they did not know of it) show us a clear teaching fromteh OT where that is said to be true?
what you are sharing is someones theology D Clouds and H Morris. it is a man made doctrine. the bible not these men are the final authority of the Salvation.
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FACT: The saved dead are resurrected 1,000 years prior to the resurrected wicked dead.
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Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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It is the wicked dead who are resurrected to stand before the Great White Throne judgment. It is those who are resurrected AFTER the 1,000 years whom the second death has power. Not one righteous person will stand before the Great White Throne for judgment... not one.
FACT: The Great White Throne judgment will be the final judgment. At it, books will be opened and another book will be opened.
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Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
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FACT: There are more than two books. The 'books' were opened indicates not a singular book, but plural... books. And another book was opened. 'And another book' indicates there is another book beside the books that are previously opened. Scripture does not say exactly how many books are opened, but it is clear it is more than two.
Old Testament declares Abraham believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness. Belief is faith. It took faith to save the patriarch's of the Old Testament just as it takes faith for man to be saved today.
Hebrews 11 records what we preachers like to refer to as "The Hall of Faith," or "The Walk of Faith." In it, many Old Testament characters are named as having had faith that pleased God.
Linda is not wrong in her expository teaching on the twentieth chapter of Revelation, Chette.
You may want to go back and study that chapter again.