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Old 10-03-2008, 07:28 PM
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I disagree, that once a person is saved, that he's saved forever. This is what my baptist friend tells me. He says that a person needs to go to the church, become saved. After that the person is saved, the person can go into the world, sin as much as possible, and would still end up in heaven.
I disagree with this.
I disagree with the idea that it's okay to sin, once you get saved. Jesus did say "Go and sin no more." But if you think that you can lose your salvation, tell me, how did you get it? Did you earn your salvation? Or did Jesus do the work for you?

If you worked to get saved, then you could lose your salvation. However, since Jesus did all the work, He keeps our salvation, and we cannot lose it even if we wanted to, and tried to.
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." (John 10:28, 29)


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But David , NOah or Moses did not Sin every day, did they? It was very rare that they sinned once they knew the Lord.
How do you know this? Could you cite the Scripture that leads you to believe this?

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This is what I'm saying that a Christian can sin in his life. However, the sin should not appear every day. If the sin appears every day, then we are in an addiction of some sort. If we are in an addiction, then we need to pray and ask God for freedom from the addiction.
If we sin the same sin over and over, then we need to not just ask for forgiveness and cleansing (1 John 1:9) but should ask the Lord to help us overcome it. We need to turn away from the sin.

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What I'm trying to say, is that we should not sin every single day. If we do sin, then what are different from an unsaved person?
If we do sin, when we do sin, we have an Advocate, Someone to plead our cause, and we have Someone Who not only forgives and cleanses us, but helps us overcome the sinful flesh we live in.

And we know where we're going when we die, and we know He won't let us go...ever. We belong to Him.
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:21)


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...Also, the Christian try his best to not sin.
"Go and sin no more." Yes. I agree

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Originally Posted by wwjd.usa View Post
This shows that when the disciples took the communion, all of the desciples were clean and without sin, except Judas Iscoriot. Iff the disciples sinned every five minutes, then Jesus could not say that all eleven of the disciples are clean.
They were clean, washed of their sins, by their faith. However, they, as we, pick up daily dirt on our feet, we 'sin' in little ways even if we're very good. That's why we need to ask the Lord to forgive us and to cleanse us, daily, to get the 'dirt' off our feet.

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How do you exaplain the phrase "go and sin no more" (John 5:14)
Look above. If I was not clear, ask me again.