[Steven Avery]

Hi Folks,

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

BAGD, the standard Greek lexicon (which most here consider one of the most liberal works) gives the most basic, root definition as: " dip, immerse, mid. dip oneself, wash (in non-Christian lit. also ‘plunge, sink, drench, overwhelm’

Putting aside all your other difficulties .. FSSL, Do you even realize that dipping and washing and being drenched are not the same as immersion?

When you wash dishes, do you necessarily immerse dishes ?
When you dip into a pool, are you immersed in the pool ?
When you get drenched in a downpour are you immersed or submersed or water ?

Even by your own chosen "basic, root" definition (which Diligent points out is often faulty translation) your claim totally fails.

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

"Baptism" means "immerse," plain and simply.

A person has to have some sort of special confusion or agenda to contradict themselves so blatantly in a space of a couple of hours. You demonstrate the words are not equal, and then you claim they are.

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

Where would "immersion" not be a good translation?

Since two different posts give a number of different verses, your asking this question now shows that you are not paying attention to any facts that contradict your particular agenda against the King James Bible on the word 'baptism'. Reread the thread, look for verses, and then comment.

Shalom,
Steven