[chette777]

I was reviewing all the posts concerning the emergent church. listening intently looking for a thought.

I agree the church is watering down its mission with LOVE the new age theme since the 1960's. but as I looked some of you who don't agree with rick have in your own replies the reason that this movement has come about.

you see the 10 commandments don't belong in the church age (this current dispensation) and niether does the Kingdom laws for the Kigdom yet to come. we are in the church age the age of grace.

All we need in salvation is ours in Christ the moment we BELIEVE in his finished work on the cross. the power to live according to Gods superhuman requirement for us in this age cannot be done in the flesh it must be done by and through the Holy Spirit. the problem with the Charismatics they think the Holy Spirit is to manifest itself in some funny and rediculous way. the Holy Spirit will remain in the back ground working out the victory in your lives without anyone ever seeing it.

All We have ever needed was given to us. but to yolk ourselves back under laws is to put to shame the cross of Christ. you can not finish in the flesh what you started inthe Spirit. you must live each day in the same faith in Christ as you had the first time You believed.

so the Charismatics wanted a spirit that they could feel and touch and they got it. demonic but it is theirs. how about you? you want to place your selves back under laws and rules for your life in Christ and all of you struggle so hard and fail. then you are on your knees confused and crying why Why Why?

it is that double standard of faith alone and then adding works to finish the job.

the struggle we as the conservative church created in following rules and regulations puts everyone back in a system that cannot get them what they need so the Chrismatic movement got something and so many follow after it because they know how hard it is to live the life Christ has called us to live by him in His Spirit.

we need to return to the very foundation of Biblical salvation in all of its completion that is Justification, righteousness, for we were created to do good works in Christ. not to do good works to finish our slavation or any other work that Christ has already completed in His cross.

slavation by faith alone in the finished work of Christ. who on His cross judged all our sins forever. and living in the Holy Ghost, empowered to live the Impossible life we have been asked to live.

just to give a few examples: Moses laws states and eye for an eye, the knigdom law (more strict that moses) is turn the other cheek, Roms 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Moses law, love you neighbor as yourself, kingdom law, love your enemy..., under the Age of Grace Love ye on another as I have loved you. all the ten commandments are restated under grace but all meant to be lived under the power of the Holy Ghost. we don't live byt he Ten Commandments for one they were given to the Jews only never a Gentile. and remenber Christ Cross put to deatht he law and left all men condemed under sin.

if we are going to rescue those whom we ourselves have caused to move into such movements as the emerging church . we oursleves need to live in this dispensation by faith alone in Jesus Christs Cross. the works will follow any one who beleives on Christ. but they never come before. Christ is the WAy, the truth and the Life and it is all by faith in his finished work.

lets stop being the problem why these people have left the foundations of faith alone and turned to these demonic things, and start being part of the solution to lead them back to the firm foundation of Christ.

Chette