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Forum: Bible Versions 07-12-2008, 11:11 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And the problem is that you make...

Hi Folks,

And the problem is that you make this an either/or proposition.

We can fully accept the self-authentication of the King James Bible as our own faith conviction. God's word has...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-12-2008, 09:35 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Notice how while this thread...

Hi Folks,

Notice how while this thread took a break, Manny and I shared about the Psalm 12:7 King James Bible margin note -- and how the translators excellently understood the Hebrew grammar. ...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Replies: 78
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And .. perhaps .. Matthew, you...

Hi Folks,

And .. perhaps .. Matthew, you should reconsider your continual negative aspersions on those who have ably disassembled multiple modern version confusions, patiently demonstrating how...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-12-2008, 09:39 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Matthew has the unfortunate habit...

Hi Folks,

Matthew has the unfortunate habit of misrepresenting Dean Burgon (placing his theories, conjectures and suppositions into the mouth of the Dean as the Dean's words against other words...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-11-2008, 06:34 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, An expansion of two paragraphs...

Hi Folks,

An expansion of two paragraphs above, a bit late for changing the post. The mod is welcome to update and combine, or leave as is.

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I was simply saying the defense of the...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-11-2008, 05:53 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Precisely. Those lists vary...

Hi Folks,

Precisely. Those lists vary tremendously. One persons archaic word to be replaced (e.g. stablish) is another's excellent more precise English word with a specific distinction from...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-11-2008, 02:54 PM
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Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Essentially yes, in terms of the...

Hi Folks,

Essentially yes, in terms of the types of changes that modify the text or really change translation.

I respect that work, and consider it anywhere between largely accurate and...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, You are doing as poor a job with...

Hi Folks,

You are doing as poor a job with my words as you did with the Dean's.

Of course a Greek overhaul would manifest in the English, whether the change manifest in margin notes or a...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-10-2008, 10:42 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And I pointed out that the...

Hi Folks,

And I pointed out that the wording from Miller had some ambiguity. And it has been pointed out by others that one has to be careful that Miller doesn't superimpose his interpretation...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-10-2008, 04:56 AM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Of course not, and to write in this manner is an...

Of course not, and to write in this manner is an astonishing misrepresentation of my words. Where did I ever claim that 150 is a "few" ?

What I am asking is the nature of these 'suggestions' --...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-10-2008, 04:13 AM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, I am amazed that Matthew still...

Hi Folks,

I am amazed that Matthew still argues this, although at least in this post we can parse some specifics more clearly.

The Dean made it very clear that neither the skills nor the...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Replies: 78
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Matthew, you have played three...

Hi Folks,

Matthew, you have played three ends against the middle in trying to make some justification for your original quote misrepresentation.

Originally you tried :

Burgon spoke of...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-08-2008, 08:45 AM
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Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Would you share some pages from...

Hi Folks,

Would you share some pages from this revision upon which you say Dean John Burgon laboured ? At least some lists of corrections, some lists of updates, some lists of verses to be...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-08-2008, 03:29 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And my view is that this is...

Hi Folks,

And my view is that this is exactly what you did in the case at hand, which is why I went to some effort to carefully document the actual fuller-in-context words of the Dean, how the...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-07-2008, 10:22 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And I expected this type of...

Hi Folks,

And I expected this type of response from Matthew.

And I strongly disagree and to me your writings now lose much credibility. At this point I will have to consider quotations that...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-07-2008, 09:41 AM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, The textual changes proposed in...

Hi Folks,

The textual changes proposed in the Dean's analysis are in his writings. They are minor compared to the battleground verses, he even has a quote about that and I can pull it out later...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-06-2008, 11:55 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Did Dean John Burgon speak of the necessity of revision, laying out plans ?

Hi Folks,

The scholarship of Dean Burgon's Revision Revised is truly amazing and of a depth rarely seen in any age. Above we have a misrepresentation of some introductory words from the Dean...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-06-2008, 08:29 AM
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Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Amen. Also the issue that...

Hi Folks,

Amen.

Also the issue that swayed me most was understanding that the whole textcrit game was false, and the issue that highlighted that for me was the abject corruption of Sinaiticus...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-05-2008, 07:10 PM
Replies: 78
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Spot-on. A great pitfall is to...

Hi Folks,

Spot-on. A great pitfall is to judge too harshly men by the light that we see clearly today. Tozer, Pink, Spurgeon and others had been the recipients of a century-long agiprop campaign...
Forum: Bible Versions 07-01-2008, 06:22 AM
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Views: 71,297
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, A lot of fine thoughts in this...

Hi Folks,

A lot of fine thoughts in this thread.

First, counterpoint. I very strongly disagree with the concept that the issue of the underlying Greek text (the Reformation Battle of the...
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