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Forum: Doctrine 11-10-2008, 03:25 PM
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"God is not willing that any should perish, but...

"God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Regardless of His feelings toward sinners, be they love or hate (though the Bible is clear on that), He still...
Forum: Doctrine 11-08-2008, 03:57 PM
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I believe he was trying to say "Loves the sinner...

I believe he was trying to say "Loves the sinner but hates the sin."

Romans 5:8 simply says that, speaking of the saved individuals in the church, God proved His love by giving His Son to die for...
Forum: Doctrine 11-08-2008, 03:48 PM
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Not Spirit, not Elijah...how about addressing him...

Not Spirit, not Elijah...how about addressing him as "Of" then? :p

Welcome and enjoy!
Forum: Doctrine 11-01-2008, 10:38 PM
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Nope. God commendeth His love toward us...Christ...

Nope. God commendeth His love toward us...Christ died for us.

God's display of His love was the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That verse does not say that God loves sinners. Period. :)
Forum: Doctrine 10-31-2008, 10:58 PM
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Atlas, I haven't seen anyone say that God...

Atlas, I haven't seen anyone say that God wouldn't save anyone. He simply, according to the Scriptures, doesn't love those people until they are "accepted in the beloved." If you have specific...
Forum: Doctrine 10-31-2008, 08:49 PM
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Luke, I didn't redefine anything; I simply said...

Luke, I didn't redefine anything; I simply said that "world" is collective, as in God's whole human creation. Basically everyone, but in a more general sense. You'll see Paul speaking of God loving...
Forum: Doctrine 10-31-2008, 04:31 PM
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Something tricky to watch for is verb tenses and...

Something tricky to watch for is verb tenses and indirect objects.

"For God so loved the world..."

First, that's past tense. It doesn't say "loves." At a point in history, God loved the...
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Forum: Doctrine 10-31-2008, 12:04 PM
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A just, holy, righteous God cannot stand sin in...

A just, holy, righteous God cannot stand sin in His presence; a sinner is someone who is covered in sin, and actively rejecting the ultimate sacrifice of His only Son, Jesus Christ. How could anyone...
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