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Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 10:44 PM
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Posted By Kiwi Christian
No need to apologise brother, you've done a...

No need to apologise brother, you've done a splendid job of showing your position. I have read through every one of your posts and meditated on them.
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 09:26 PM
Replies: 104
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Posted By Kiwi Christian
I love you too, brother.

I love you too, brother.
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 09:02 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
*cough* It takes one to know one! Your...

*cough* It takes one to know one!

Your signature "Waiting for my Bridegroom" remember.

Chette, why is it that you don't display more grace to those of us who still believe this doctrine,...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 07:41 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
I explained in an earlier post that I believe we...

I explained in an earlier post that I believe we are married to Jesus Christ now spiritually, but that the physical union is yet future, when our bodies are redeemed.

I've got no problem with...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 07:35 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
Johanine epistles? Brother, I addressed the...

Johanine epistles? Brother, I addressed the scriptures that needed addressing in my mind, and they were the ones written to me by Paul the Apostle. I have explained that I don't agree with the way...
Forum: Doctrine 03-15-2009, 10:39 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
When all is said and done, I still stand by my...

When all is said and done, I still stand by my belief that the body of Christ, the Church, is currently espoused (engaged) to be married to Jesus Christ in heaven above at a future time. The main...
Forum: Doctrine 03-15-2009, 01:32 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
So that He can be "one" with His church, as is...

So that He can be "one" with His church, as is the purpose of every marriage:

Ephesians 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the...
Forum: Doctrine 03-15-2009, 12:54 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
I'm with you on this Bro. Kevin. The type still...

I'm with you on this Bro. Kevin. The type still holds true:

Adam fell into a deep sleep when his rib was taken out of his side to make Eve (Genesis 2:21-23).

The second Adam, Jesus, fell into...
Forum: Doctrine 03-14-2009, 11:58 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
I think you misunderstand the verse brother. It...

I think you misunderstand the verse brother. It isn't saying that Israel is part of the body of Christ, it is saying that the Spirit baptism breaks down the barriers between Jews or Gentiles, bond or...
Forum: Doctrine 03-09-2009, 03:15 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
Good point Kevin. It brings to light another good...

Good point Kevin. It brings to light another good reason why Israel, the "wife" of Jehovah in the Old Testament, cannot possibly be espoused to marry Jesus Christ in the future, for Christ's wife is...
Forum: Doctrine 03-09-2009, 02:55 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
The answer to this question is paramount to the...

The answer to this question is paramount to the doctrine being discussed, it is foundational to understanding the Church's relationship with Jesus Christ.

Can a body, of which the head is part...
Forum: Doctrine 03-08-2009, 07:21 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
Brother, from where I sit it looks to me like you...

Brother, from where I sit it looks to me like you believe that the Church is married to Jesus Christ now, and Israel will be married to Jesus Christ in the future? Don't you see something seriously...
Forum: Doctrine 03-08-2009, 05:09 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
I knew you would make it figurative! See, that's...

I knew you would make it figurative! See, that's how people in 'your camp' deal with the two greatest verses from the Pauline epistles which 'our camp' uses to support the doctrine of the Church...
Forum: Doctrine 03-08-2009, 03:18 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 89,752
Posted By Kiwi Christian
Your team missed an important proof text which is...

Your team missed an important proof text which is used to teach that the Church is the Bride-to-be of Jesus Christ, that being Romans 7:4. You would have found it had you done a search on the word...
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