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Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 11:23 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
They are at the beginning of the "marriage"...

They are at the beginning of the "marriage" ("kindom of heaven"), but they were cast out into the lake of fire. The Second Coming is BEFORE the wedding, after the bad ones are cast out.

Matthew...
Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 11:12 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
:amen: I don't believe you. I believe...

:amen:


I don't believe you. I believe Matthew.

Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of...
Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 10:55 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Kevin, God uses figures of speech as he...

Brother Kevin,
God uses figures of speech as he sees fit.

In Matthew 22:2, the "kingdom of heaven" is likened to a "marriage".
In Matthew 25:1, the "kingdom of heaven" is likened unto "ten...
Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 10:36 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
I don't have time yet to go deeper into this or...

I don't have time yet to go deeper into this or to consult commentaries, but reading it as written, here is what I can say about what it's saying:

Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a...
Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 10:14 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Matthew 22:2 explains the LITERAL "kingdom of...

Matthew 22:2 explains the LITERAL "kingdom of heaven" using the parable (FIGURATIVE) of a "king which made a marriage for his son".

The meaning of the whole parable is "the kingdom of heaven"....
Forum: Doctrine 03-18-2009, 09:01 AM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Thanks, Bro. Chette! I didn't know you were...

Thanks, Bro. Chette! I didn't know you were "grading" my thesis. I wish you were my Bible school teacher; none ever gave me an A+ in my Bible school years!:D
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 10:51 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Thanks, brother!

Thanks, brother!
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 10:15 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Kiwi, sorry for my long posts; but at...

Brother Kiwi, sorry for my long posts; but at least you see why (as Brother Chette) I had to change my position back then.

On this issue, it certainly not that easy to disregard my Elemental...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 09:58 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
#1 I was referring to the Gospel of John and...

#1
I was referring to the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation, written by the Apostle John. I forgot that the "Johanine epistles" refer to 1, 2, and 3 John.

Doctrinal Interpretation vs....
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 06:09 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Which "church"? The churches in Revelation 2...

Which "church"?

The churches in Revelation 2 and 3 are local churches in the Tribulation period and not the Body of Christ in the Age of Grace.

Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 05:17 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
I would like to add some more points: 1. In...

I would like to add some more points:
1. In Galatians, it's Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles who is speaking.
2. In Revelation, it's John the Apostle to the Jews who is speaking.
3. Therefore, in...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 05:11 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Winman, I hope you will notice that this...

Brother Winman, I hope you will notice that this is written to the Hebrews and not to the Body of Christ:
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: ...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 04:54 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Hi, winman! I am also a "Bible student" but no...

Hi, winman!
I am also a "Bible student" but no Bible scholar.

We need to rightly divide "church".

WHICH "church"? Please visit my post here (post #5):
...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 04:58 AM
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Posted By Biblestudent
If it is true that Christ "will marry" the...

If it is true that Christ "will marry" the church, why then are we "married" (Rom.7) and IS "one flesh" (Eph 5) with Him right NOW.

Again, here is a CLEAR, DEFINITE Scripture that tells us of a...
Forum: Doctrine 03-17-2009, 04:49 AM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Kiwi, you have not addressed any of the...

Brother Kiwi, you have not addressed any of the Scriptures we presented. What you did is force Pauline writings into Johanine epistles. To me, that is definitely not rightly dividing the word of...
Forum: Doctrine 03-15-2009, 07:54 AM
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Posted By Biblestudent
That is why no one should make or teach a...

That is why no one should make or teach a doctrine out of types.

Context determines meaning.

I have no problem with all the types anyone is trying to fit into any doctrine as long as they...
Forum: Doctrine 03-12-2009, 06:03 PM
Replies: 104
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Posted By Biblestudent
Yes, that's right, Bro. Chette. That's what I've...

Yes, that's right, Bro. Chette. That's what I've seen in Scripture that made me really reconsider my position back then.
Forum: Doctrine 03-12-2009, 12:57 AM
Replies: 104
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Posted By Biblestudent
I made this explanation: John 3:29 - John the...

I made this explanation:
John 3:29 - John the Baptist is identifying to the bride who the bridegroom is, just like what He did IN JOHN CHAPTER ONE - that Christ should be made manifest to Israel.
...
Forum: Doctrine 03-11-2009, 02:47 PM
Replies: 104
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Posted By Biblestudent
"Bride" in Swordsearcher

"Bride" Isa 49:18; 61:10; 62:5; Jer 2:32; 7:34; 16:9; 25:10; 33:11; Joe 2:16; Joh 3:29; Re 18:23; 21:2,9; 22:17

Isaiah 49:18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves...
Forum: Doctrine 03-11-2009, 01:40 PM
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Posted By Biblestudent
Zechariah 12:10. And I will pour upon the house...

Zechariah 12:10. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they...
Forum: Doctrine 03-11-2009, 09:07 AM
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Posted By Biblestudent
No problem with types. Types are simply...

No problem with types. Types are simply illustrations, but not all illustrations fit 100%. Not only that, some illustrations are far-fetched.



That's where I think the problem is. Nobody in...
Forum: Doctrine 03-11-2009, 08:43 AM
Replies: 104
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Posted By Biblestudent
Like a Calvinist with a "TULIP fixation" (as Dr....

Like a Calvinist with a "TULIP fixation" (as Dr. Laurence Vance put it), there are two sides of the coin in the issue of "rightly dividing the word of truth".

The one side has a "CHURCH fixation",...
Forum: Doctrine 03-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 90,271
Posted By Biblestudent
Honestly, I really like the question, brother. ...

Honestly, I really like the question, brother.

Certainly, it does NOT say "church" anywhere. This is the problem of almost every commentary (and song) I've read (or liked to sing). They would...
Forum: Doctrine 03-10-2009, 04:02 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 90,271
Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Kiwi, everything you quoted only supports...

Brother Kiwi, everything you quoted only supports the Biblical record in Revelation 19 that indeed Israel is looking for a future REMARRIAGE. They have played the harlot, but they are to return unto...
Forum: Doctrine 03-10-2009, 03:53 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 90,271
Posted By Biblestudent
Brother Kevin, I agree with what you said if it...

Brother Kevin, I agree with what you said if it means that the fulfilment is at the present Age of Grace ("now"). I've got some comments concerning typology.

Plain doctrine first, before typology:...
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