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Forum: Bible Versions 08-09-2008, 04:40 PM
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One Bible Only ? - article is by W. Edward G

Hi Folks,

Authorship correction.

On post #49 I mentioned Roy Beacham as one of the gnat misprint accusers and on post #82 the book by Beacham & Bauder - One Bible Only ? However Roy Beacham and...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-09-2008, 04:19 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
anachronistic accusation

Hi Folks,

Please understand that the 'strain at a gnat' accusation is anachronistic. We are in an age of information that fully refuted the accusation and the accusers have to feign ignorance. ...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-09-2008, 04:00 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hebrews 10:23 - profession of faith

Hi Folks,

Once you learn the techniques of deceptive opponents of the pure King James Bible it becomes much easier to understand their game. One example, well understood, has a carry-over effect...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-08-2008, 09:55 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
1599 Geneva Study Bible

Hi Folks,

The 'strongest' non-argument or pseudo-argument given for the misprint canard was 'other early versions had 'strain out a gnat'. Well..duhh..the King James Bible translators updated the...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-08-2008, 09:36 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks And it was not just Matthew Poole...

Hi Folks

And it was not just Matthew Poole and Matthew Henry in that first century that had no difficulties with 'strain at a gnat'. (Noting that we see that Matthew Henry perceptively uses...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-08-2008, 07:50 AM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, Previously I have noted Oxford...

Hi Folks,

Previously I have noted Oxford English Dictionary, Constantin Hopf, Jeffrey Nachimson and 'Jerome' on the BibleBaptistBoard as especially helpful in the history of rebutting the misprint...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-08-2008, 07:04 AM
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Posted By Steven Avery
printer's conference to fix the 'mistake'

Hi Folks,

Thanks Chette and Mighty Angel. I have learned a lot seeing how the myth against the King James Bible developed and is sustained by cornfuseniks. We saw the basic canard and then the...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-06-2008, 07:03 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, In this context, understand .....

Hi Folks,

In this context, understand .. none of the deceivers ever really think they can get any mileage out of the translation issue discussion alone. They are not that dumb. In our day and...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-06-2008, 06:12 PM
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Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
short overview of the two lies

Hi Folks,

Amen, George. The mind, the final result of the rebellion, is a terrible thing to waste - and a travesty to put in the service of the deceiver, the accuser of the word of God.
...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-06-2008, 01:40 AM
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Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
principalities - spiritual wickedness in high places

Hi Folks,

A break today from the fascinating factual and literary and historical and Biblical exegesis and translational backdrop of this verse and section in the Bible to a small thought about...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-04-2008, 09:32 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, To finish for the evening, here...

Hi Folks,

To finish for the evening, here is a cute aside to show the power and strength of 'strain at a gnat ..'.
Let's start where we came in, and move ahead a century.

Remember Noah...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-04-2008, 08:46 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
'strain at a gnat' - definition & Jonathan Went article

Hi Folks,

When you ask for a 'definition' of an idiom, you can get a wide variety of response. We noticed above how Daniel Wallace extracted a little remark from OED (Oxford English...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-04-2008, 08:04 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, First, here is another...

Hi Folks,

First, here is another Commentary, about 1920.

http://www.biblecentre.org/commentaries/acg_44_mathew_exp2.htm
The Gospel of Matthew - An Exposition Arno Clement Gaebelein (c. 1920)...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-04-2008, 07:19 AM
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Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
four 1800s commentators, Burkitt, Wicks, Spurgeon, Edersheim

Hi Folks,

Having concentrated on the top pistol-slinger sophisticated and subtile deceiver, Daniel Wallace, and considering others who have tried to propagate the misprint myths, in the last few...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 08:49 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
misprint only in the original autographs !

Hi Folks,

Thanks, Will. That is a bit complicated for Daniel Wallace. Or else he only goes with the 'original autographs' so even the 1611 text he saw didn't count. We know the 'original...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 04:58 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Ron Minton - Daniel Wallace scholarly source

Hi Folks,

As pointed out Daniel Wallace makes no mention of the extremely pertinent scholarly paper by Constantin Hopf in any of the three articles we have examined where he makes a variety of...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 03:39 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Zondervan perputuates Scrivener error

Hi Folks,

It is worth noting that this iimproper modification will carry over to a modern publisher King James Bibles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Cambridge_Paragraph_Bible
The original...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 01:06 PM
Replies: 109
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Posted By Steven Avery
'KJB' editions with 'strain out'

Hi Folks,

Checking Ron Minton, he adds nothing new, only what we have already discussed, listing :

1754 eight volume edition issued in London by T. Baskett
1833 Noah Webster revision
1873...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 12:09 PM
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Posted By Steven Avery
Daniel Wallace, MDW

Hi Folks,

Daniel Wallace tries hard to use 'strain as a gnat' as his closer, but it is a blown save. Here is yet a third article, from a talk he gave in 2001, where he tries the same Wallace...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-03-2008, 08:48 AM
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Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
David Daniels responds to 1611 myth-accusastion

Hi Folks,

There is some more to go into about the blunderama from Daniel Wallace. Wallace invested a big emotional and tactical part of his anti-KJB writings on the multi-lies about Matthew...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-02-2008, 02:35 PM
Replies: 109
Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
caveat emptor

Hi Folks,

And even worse, impure counterfeits of the pure and perfect word of God.

Shalom,
Steven
Forum: Bible Versions 08-02-2008, 02:01 PM
Replies: 109
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Posted By Steven Avery
myth-accusation of KJB-1611 having 'strain out'

Hi Folks,

Now we go to an extra level of confusion and absurdity from the anti-KJB folks.
The claim that the 1611 had 'strain out' and it was changed to 'strain at'.
As mentioned earlier it is...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-01-2008, 11:46 AM
Replies: 109
Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, And the Rheims NT being different,...

Hi Folks,

And the Rheims NT being different, 'strain a gnat'.

Shalom,
Steven
Forum: Bible Versions 08-01-2008, 10:00 AM
Replies: 109
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Posted By Steven Avery
Hi Folks, One additional note on the...

Hi Folks,

One additional note on the astoundingly deficient Daniel Wallace presentations.

In the article where Daniel Wallace claims about 'strain out a gnat':
...
Forum: Bible Versions 08-01-2008, 09:07 AM
Replies: 109
Views: 136,161
Posted By Steven Avery
'Misprint' Quote Festival - prior to 1611 - and 1600s

Hi Folks,

And to round out for now the section on early usages.
One more clear usage.

Richard Jugge - the Queen's printer (1570)
A briefe examination for the tyme, of a certaine...
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