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Forum: Bible Studies 04-23-2009, 09:09 PM
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Posted By Winman
Chette I am not going to keep going with you...

Chette

I am not going to keep going with you on this subject, it is more than enough.

But when I say false teaching, one of us must be guilty of false teaching. If the gap is true, then I am...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-23-2009, 05:57 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
Well, I disagree. You probably have the wrong...

Well, I disagree. You probably have the wrong impression of me. I like both you and Chette very much. We all trust in Jesus Christ as our Saviour, and that makes us brothers. Now that said, if I...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-23-2009, 05:20 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven That's funny. Have I ever called...

Fredoheaven

That's funny. Have I ever called either one of you a name as I have been called? And what is this last post? Are you implying that I am Satan? :pound:

That's OK, I am not offended,...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-23-2009, 02:33 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
CKG I agree with you 100%. I have a...

CKG



I agree with you 100%. I have a family member who does not believe in the Rapture, and argues the word Rapture is not found in the Bible. I have shown this person the many verses that do...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
I disagree with you both. I have never argued...

I disagree with you both. I have never argued that either Eze 28 or Isa 14 are definitely speaking of Satan. Now, having said that, I do strongly lean in that direction. But Satan is not mentioned by...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-19-2009, 05:20 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
As usual Chette, you go on at length with your...

As usual Chette, you go on at length with your personal opinions and teachings of men, without a single scripture to support your view.

Truth is, I don't know what Satan is doing in heaven other...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-18-2009, 08:43 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
OK, here we go again. Fredoheaven criticizes me...

OK, here we go again. Fredoheaven criticizes me for saying that Lucifer is Satan. The you accuse me of lumping all gappers alike. Then you recommend David Regan's site (which I've seen before). And...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-18-2009, 05:18 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven I actually agree with you, there...

Fredoheaven

I actually agree with you, there is no way to know for certain if Lucifer in Isaiah 14 is speaking of Satan. But the name of Lucifer has been associated with Satan by the church for...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-18-2009, 04:21 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Fred I am not sure I understand what you are...

Fred

I am not sure I understand what you are saying, but I am not trying to offend you.

Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-18-2009, 01:26 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven Fred, what you are doing...

Fredoheaven



Fred, what you are doing here is wresting the scriptures. One reason I came to this forum is because I believe God is absolutely perfect, that he promised to preserve his word in...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-17-2009, 07:54 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
Chette, this is where you go wrong. Where in all...

Chette, this is where you go wrong. Where in all the Bible does it say that Adam sinned on "the first day of the next week"?? That is nowhere in scripture. Adam may have been sinless for as much as...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-17-2009, 04:27 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
BABB You have made excellent points, and I...

BABB

You have made excellent points, and I had thought of that before. Yes, there are several hundred breeds of dogs, all called by different names, but when you ask a little child what they are,...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Chette, Satan or Lucifer could have led worship...

Chette, Satan or Lucifer could have led worship numerous times. I am not saying that he did lead worship for a fact, but if he did lead worship, it could have been for years.

The Bible clearly...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-15-2009, 02:25 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
No Chette, God did not just create the whales and...

No Chette, God did not just create the whales and man in Gen chapter 1. You twist God's Word. God had more than one word for create.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
No, Proverbs 8 tells us wisdom and understanding...

No, Proverbs 8 tells us wisdom and understanding were with God before the creation of the world.

Prov 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-13-2009, 03:37 PM
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Posted By Winman
Excellent points BABB514 And that is what...

Excellent points BABB514

And that is what really gets my goat about this gap theory. It simply contradicts so much scripture. For instance, and I think this is very important, the gap theory...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-12-2009, 06:08 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
That's pure nonsense. I see nothing whatsoever in...

That's pure nonsense. I see nothing whatsoever in these verses to support your gap theory.

Perhaps you would like to explain in detail how Proverbs 8:22-31 supports your theory. I would love to...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-12-2009, 03:45 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
I want to correct my own statement in post #53, I...

I want to correct my own statement in post #53, I should have said this is where God commanded the "waters" (not seas) to be gathered together so that dry land appeared.

This is important because...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
First, a joyous Easter to all. :) Verses to...

First, a joyous Easter to all. :)

Verses to show angels are created beings and have not been with God from everlasting.

Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
I believe Fredoheaven asked where God was before...

I believe Fredoheaven asked where God was before creation. I can't really answer that, but the Bible is clear God is from everlasting before creation.

Proverbs 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Chette If you were to take a new believer in...

Chette

If you were to take a new believer in Christ who had not been taught, and let them read Genesis chapter 1, they would NEVER come up with your Gap Theory. They would read it just as it says,...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 05:16 PM
Replies: 121
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Posted By Winman
Are you saying that it is impossible for God to...

Are you saying that it is impossible for God to create Satan? And not supported in the scriptures?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 03:24 PM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven Thank you. This is not about...

Fredoheaven

Thank you. This is not about being right, it is about what the Bible really says. I can tell you, I want to know the truth come what may. And to me this is why knowing the King James...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 10:18 AM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven also said Now you are...

Fredoheaven also said



Now you are arguing that Lucifer is not Satan? First, Lucifer is mentioned in Isa 14:12, not Ezekiel.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the...
Forum: Bible Studies 04-11-2009, 09:43 AM
Replies: 121
Views: 319,565
Posted By Winman
Fredoheaven said Rev 20:11 is speaking...

Fredoheaven said



Rev 20:11 is speaking of the earth and the heaven, not the wicked dead. It is the earth and heaven that has fled away and there is no place found for them. But the great white...
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