OK..............you got me, I'm busted:peace:

I understand your point, however as you noted and someone else characterized 9/11............the question was conveyed in a way that a person was still in control of what happened to their remains as to bury or cremate.

People lost at sea or at 9/11 did not have that choice.

I think you said it.....................and that is the bottom line. It ain't in the Bible............. Can't put a square in a round hole.

Still trying to absorb all the posts and I've learned quite a bit. You guyz are amazing...........! Brandon.............1 Sam. 31:12-13 was excellent.

Sorry for the multiple posts............I'm still trying to figure out this muti-quote thing.

Noooo...! Sorry. I didn't mean we stayed on topic and you didn't! I was just giving credit to the group for staying on topic. That doesn't always happen!

I just sort of saw how funny this group can be (now, no offense meant to anyone). You ask one simple question about cremation and you get a full on theological debate with 20 different opinions on one point or another. I was just looking at it from what I perceived to be your point of view as a person new to the board and it struck me as really funny.

Wasn't offended in the least bit.................got quite a laugh.

Yes..................lots of grenades hurled at this subject, yet there is some good meat to pull from it. Definitely picked up a thing or too...............iron sharpenth iron, 'eh?

This is a heck of a forum.

conviction & grace
 

:amen::D:D

Sorry, but it made me laugh!

Well, I find a lot of good posts here.

Based on some of the posts that I've read here, I prefer to be buried, and I prefer that our church practice BURIAL:
1. It's the Bible practice.
2. Cremation seems to be of paganistic origin.
3. Martyrs were "cremated" at the stake.
4. Burial is economical here.
5. Burial is a matter of conviction.
6. There is no verse in Scripture against cremation; even Paul has no objection to giving his body to be "burned" (as a martyr? or by cremation?)
7. There are a lot of verses for burial.
8. Finally, Christ died for my sins, and that HE WAS BURIED, and that he rose again the third day.

"Let every one be persuaded in his own mind."

"The King James Bible is the final authority in all matters of faith and PRACTICE."

Cloudwalker the party pooper :D

Apology accepted Jassy :) It certainly happens to us all. Not a problem. I try not to get all worked up as I too often speak before I think...but then I also speak what I think after thinking about it and that gets me into trouble too. :eek:

Perhaps we should put a disclaimer

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted then used against you.

:pound:

:D

Hey, I'm only telling you what Jesus said, don't take my word for it. :p :D

:pound: Disclaimers might not be a bad idea.
NOTE: I am having a bad day. Step on my toes and see what happens. I disclaim any responsibility for the outcome!:D

Just kidding. I actually very rarely have "bad mood" days. I'm usually an optimist.

My mother once asked me how I can go through life with "rose-colored glasses" on. I told her - "That's easy. Believe in Jesus."

Unfortunately, she gets very uncomfortable when I make any mention of Jesus. :(

Jassy

Jassy,

Love the disclaimer! I am apt to use it sometime in the future :D

Bro. Brandon,

I was reading over this thread again and it doesn't look like I ever adressed this comment you made:

I stand corrected :) You are right that they already had had their way with Saul and we would be speculating that the motive is as you mentioned shame or embarrassement.

Bro. George, I was just wondering if after Brandon's post #25 and Jessica's post #32 you still believed I was way off on the sacrifice/martyr thought?


And WingWiper are you still absorbing the info? :)

It would be great to hear a summary of what you learned in answer to your question. :)

Sis. Amanda.......

Still absorbing...........? Absolutely.

I'm just enamored if you will over the how this thing was kicked back and forth, how as yourself and other folk kept the focus on this thing scriptural. It was never about salvation, eternal security--- there is no Church Age scripture against cremation.............yet as many folk brought out that any Old Testament scriptures were ensamples.........., but ensamples are not commandments.

Some folk could care less either way about be buried or cremation and it appeared the majority would rather be buried rather than cremated. I understand and do not refute their reasoning at all. You know.....when you have some people look up to you, pose a question--- I don't want to ever be so high minded if I'm not sure........or let me clarify that if I can not put my finger scripturally on it to reach out for help which this forum has completely embraced. A few folk kind of got off topic, but the main thing is/was that from what I can see is everybody's “heart” was in the right place and wanted the scriptures to have final say!

Christ was buried.............his body was not burned. Doctrinally it don't work.............., but practically at least for me personally that'll preach. You gotta go down (humble yourself before God) before you can go up.

Brandon's verse was good that it covered the spectrum and I got a chuckle out that one. Yet it is at least a common thread from what I could discern that anything burned is and was negative. God's wrath is fire...........it's kindled, it's fire.............Num. 11:1, etc. As far as that goes the Gospel is negative (which is opposite of what is being taught) in that something must die first. Christ died [negative] than rose [positive]. No need to preach...............you guyz have already been taught that. God requires justice.............. A God who is all love is perverted. You cannot love without hating. I love my wife............you try and hurt my wife and I'll try to hurt you.

Jumping maybe outside the box the first thing you see in the tabernacle is something burning, yet it (the tabernacle) was laid out like a cross (the crucifixion). We know as others mentioned that Rom. 12:1 talks about presenting our bodies as a living sacrifice, where we know generally speaking a sacrifice was offered by burning. In Dan. 3..........although they were in the fire (literally) the 4th man--- the Son of God kept them from being burnt. Kind of like being born twice-- you die once and being born once and you die twice. Yet we know that 1 Pet 4:12 is not literal...........every feel like a dog chasing his tail? You can not get around the Word of God-- he got it all covered. What's that got to do with it.............? I don't know but I feel better. :bounce:

Isn't Rom. 12:1 and 1 Cor. 13:3 talking about motive..............? God is asking you to literally die because Christ already did what we couldn't do, yet a living sacrifice is symbolic to our body not our life. God can't use a dead body. I gave my life to Christ when I got saved; He's in me and I'm in Him, but my body which is still subject to the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4) is a tad different. The burning in 1 Cor. 13:3 is not literally burning our body but is an indication of our motive.................? Right?

A dead sacrifice is no good as was a dirty priest could not stand before God (Old Testament) just as we cannot come to God dirty, we need 1 John to clean us up as to stay in fellowship. I feel like I'm preaching to the choir...............but we all know our standing and state are not the same (Rom. 6:13). My body is acceptable to God when I do good works and we all know about then bon-fires that will be at the Judgment Seat.

I've ranted enough............. and I'm sure others might disagree, yet I find, after reaching out, study............... no Pauline doctrine suggesting either way. I'm already seated there regardless...............God will put us back together. I am prepared-- thanks to you guys to offer an answer based on the Book. My opinion does not count..............

Sorry I booped, scribal error..............

God is NOT asking you to literally die because Christ already did what we couldn't do, yet a living sacrifice is symbolic to our body not our life. God can't use a dead body.