fortune cookies
 

I was eating me some hot braised wings and fried rice. they give you a fortune cookie. I always open it to see what it says. mine always seems to know whats happening.
how do those cookies no what the deals is?

im thinking they just pile them full of positive messages.:rolleyes:

Many may accuse me of being too extreme on issues such as this, but I want to point out that God does not look favorably on fortune cookies, no matter how harmless we may think they are.

There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. (Deuteronomy 18:10-13 KJV)

I've sat at supper with many a Christian that cracked those things open, laughed and jested about what was written, and payed no mind to what is written in the Word of our Lord about them.

It would be well with you to just say "no thanks, not for me" when someone offers you one.

Much Love in Christ,
Stephen

I knew someone was gonna say that:pound:

I have a question. to me these things are just crap. so when i look at them its just entertainment. non-fictional. not real. If I dont believe in them. or follow its way. Is that still being apart of it?

If you'll study out the fortune cookie thing, it was really invented in the US, so it's not really Chinese at all. Also, I would almost guarantee that it's someone making stuff up at random and not some witch writing down demonic sayings.

Anyhow, I have to run...but I think they're dumb, harmless, and have just as much to do with actual divination as peperoni pizza. (great, now I'm hungry!)

Ever get one that reads: "That was not chicken."

FORTUNE COOKIES ARE THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

lol just kidding :p

I really like the orange flavored fortune cookies. Although, I agree with Stephanos. I think that people just write obvious things that every person might go through on those papers. Usually mine are just plain silly.

I agree with MC1171611. Just harmless, goofy fun. No witchcraft or anything.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Magic8Ball.jpg

LOL, does anybody remember the old Magic 8 Ball? :)

Editorial Review
Ever wish you could see into the future? If you answered "without a doubt" or "signs point to yes," you are in luck. It is easy to get a sneak preview into the future with Mattel's Magic 8 Ball. Take all the guesswork out of finding the answers to life's more perplexing questions. Yes, this is the same Magic 8 Ball you remember from the past, and it is just as reliable as ever. If you don't get the results you are after, you can always "ask again later!"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00001ZWV7

I remember the eight ball. It never told me anything i wanted to read:)

Fortune tellers are said not to be listened to or sought out in the Bible for Israel. the application might be we are not to seek them out either whether in jest or seriousness. I eat the cookie and throw away the paper. if you tempted to read it don't eat it or eat the whole thing paper and all.

Fortune cookies taste horrible anyhow!

I think they taste ok. I don't see anything wrong with reading them anyway. Like what was already said, it's not witchcraft, divination, or anything of the sort. It always just goofy sayings, which I usually find quite funny lol

Josh, you have been caught in the web of deceit. Your tongue has lost its discernment.:jaw: :pound:

:pound::pound:

Oh no you're right!! I'm being caught up in the "come as you are and have a good time" mentality!! :eek::D

I've never actually received a fortune. I always either get proverbs or dumb proverbs.

"A cookie in the hand is worth one in the belly"

"A penny saved is a penny that could buy more food"

"Saving money helps you achieve your goals! Dream Big!"

Stupid things like that. I'd have a hard time considering those "fortunes" since they are either "stupid" or "bleeding obvious".

Exactly. I've yet to see one that actually resembles a fortune.

I think anything that makes jest of divination is sinful. I've read dozens of fortune cookies in my life (I used to work at an asian food restaurant). Most of them read something along the lines "You will <recieve/do/have> something <sometime>." I don't think this is a joke. I'm telling ya, my spirit is not ok with this stuff, and this is coming from someone that used to be deeply involved with the heavy occult.

Also, "magic" 8 balls? Is that really even appropriate for a "Christian" forum? Do you think Jesus would approve of His soldiers entertaining such things? I think not.

Seriously... *sigh*

For Jesus' sake,
Stephen

Next step Ouija boards?

I don't think either of these has anything to do with ouija boards. Even if fortune cookies do have such statements, I still don't believe it has anything to do with witchcraft. Magic 8 Balls are simply a water filled ball with a piece of plastic on the inside.

I suppose to each his own concience though.

I think that the sin isn't in eating the horrible-tasting cookie, nor what the silly scrap of paper may or may not say. Its not wether some witchcraft went into their production, or if some hindu blessed your meal before it came to your table.
The area of sin for the Christian is that we entertain that fleeting desire to see if this time the thing written on the scrap of paper is actually true.
It demonstrates a desire to know if something other than God Almighty can predict the futur, and that falls right back into devination.

Like Xmas trees and 'Christian' rock music, ecumenism or hellywood's TV/movies, one tries to argue that since the Christian doesn't take it that way, then it isn't that way, but that never changes what it is, only changes us through compromise.

Yeah, and Tarot cards are just paper with pictures...

For Jesus' sake,
Stephen

If we're going to throw out fortune cookies and "magic" 8-balls, we had also better throw out meat offered to idols, don't you think? :confused:

All fortune telling or not aside.

In Hawaii we used to get this huge bucket of various types of Rice Cookies. While the "fortune" cookie is tasty, if done right and not stale, the Ginger Crisp one is far better. To each their own taste buds. After all folks around here like Grits... YUCK! :D

I ate grits on a Hutterite colony one time and nearly threw up! :pound: The sad thing is is that I thought they looked good so I shovelled quite a bit onto my plate. Boy did I regret doing that. Never the less, I ate it all! :p Wouldn't want them to think I wasn't excited about sharing a free meal with them. lol

Peace and Love,
Stephen

AHHH SO, sirry Amelikans not rike fortune cookie???
I have a SORUTION... :D :D :D


Bible Verse Fortune Cookies!
Each fortune cookie has an assorted preprinted Bible verse inside! These are a great way for children and adults to learn the Bible...perfect for Bible study groups, camps and retreats. Individually wrapped. (50 pcs. per unit)
http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/br...aq%3Df%26oq%3D

Curiously, after reading this thread and posting yesterday afternoon from the office, I met my girlfriend for dinner at one of our favorite Thai restaurants. Dinner was excellent, but at the end, lo and behold, the guy gave us fortune cookies. I pushed back the two he'd offered me, but my girlfriend expressed that she wanted to take them home, and since I'd refused them, he laid down two more :(

I lovingly told her that just today I had been reading about them, and related the Deuteronomy 18 passage. In typical worldy fashion she put them in her bag anyways. Later on when I was collecting the bags and coats for us to leave, I took the fortune cookies back out and placed them on the table, without saying a word, giving her a second chance to think about it, knowing she'd have the choice to take them again, after my comments had been voiced.

Sure enough, she saw them there, silently thought about it, then left them there.
I wish I could tell you all just how much the Lord has been working in her life lately. She used to refuse any sort of doctrine, advice, guidance or admonition if it had anything spiritual about it. But the Lord is slowly opening her eyes, and her heart.

I just thought I'd post this here, partly to praise and thank the Lord, even for the little things, and partly to encourage others to not neglect the small opportunities we have to please our Saviour.

AMEN! It's good to hear that she can hear the voice of the Lord! God certainly speaks to those who are willing to listen, and especially to those that soak themselves in God's Word!

Peace and Love,
Stephen

People take these things too lightly. I am going to tell you an incredible true story. I know it is true because it happened to my family.

In 1989 I moved from Florida to New England. My oldest daughter, now 32, was 13 years old at the time. In Florida she had a best friend, I am not going to mention her name. She was a good girl and used to attend church with our family nearly every week. When we moved, my daughter kept in regular touch with her friend, calling nearly every week. My daughter's friend started hanging out with a different crowd of girls who liked to play with the Ouija board. My daughter's friend told my daughter that the board really moved, and that things around her were beginning to move. I of course told my daughter to tell her to stay away from these friends and the Ouija board and that it was no game.

At Christmas, my daughter's friend flew up to spend the holidays with us. She had lived in Georgia and Florida her entire life and had never seen a snowflake. We picked her up at the airport and it began to snow. We got 15 inches that night and she was thrilled, my kids and her played in the snow and got frozen. That was good.

But the girl kept talking about objects moving around her. And then my daughter came to me and said she thought objects around them were moving as well. This really got me upset, I got angry and told my daughter's friend never to mention it again, and warned her not to play with the Occult. She never mentioned it again. After New Year's she flew home.

After this strange things began to happen in our house. But they did not happen often, and you would tend to forget about them. For instance, we had made a bedroom for our oldest daughter in our basement. She loved it, it was the biggest bedroom in the house and she had privacy from my son, and especially my two youngest daughters who had been sharing her room. On several occasions she came up and complained to my wife that her younger sisters had been in her room and thrown things around. One time she had laid clean clothes out on her bed, came upstairs and showered, then went back down. When she came down her clean clothes were thrown on the floor. If you know teenage girls, that is a serious offence. She rushed up and started yelling at my two younger daughters. But my wife told her she knew for certain they had not been in the basement, she had been with them the whole time. We had a couple of incidents like that, but they were months apart, you don't put them together.

About 2 years later my daughter had her best friend from school stay over. She was a good girl who is a nurse today. I had bought my daughter a disco-type light ball that would shine pretty colors and lights in her room. My daughter had two beds in her room and her friend and her were lying on the beds with the lights out, looking at the light show and girl talking. Suddenly, the light slid violently across her large dresser and slammed into the mirror overturning. My daughter and her friend rushed up and told me. The were very excited and quite sincere. I questioned them and they both insisted the light had slid across the dresser all by itself. That was a little upsetting, but again, as time goes by, you just forget about it.

Then, one night maybe six months later, my older daughter shook me awake in bed with my wife. It was about 3 A.M.. She was very frightened and excited, and told me she was sleeping when a loud noise in her room awakened her. She sat up in bed and looked around the room. On this same dresser was a large crystal candle-holder. My daughter said the candle-holder was vibrating wildly, and this was what was making the noise. Suddenly, the candle-holder flew off the dresser right at my daughter! My daughter said it came right at her, and she thought it was going to hit her in the face. My daughter's bed was an old fashioned canopy bed without the curtains. The candle-holder hit the wood railing above her head, shot down on the floor and shattered to pieces. This is not the kind of glass that breaks easily. Also, the candle-holder travelled upward to hit the top of her canopy bed. My daughter rushed up the stairs and woke me up. I went down to her room and saw the broken glass on the floor. I asked my daughter several times if maybe she was just dreaming, then the candle-holder fell off the dresser and woke her. She said, "Dad, I swear I'm telling the truth. I was wide awake, the candle-holder was moving all by itself, then it flew right at me and I thought it was going to hit me! Dad, I was not dreaming, and I am telling the truth."

And I believed her, my daughter was a very good girl, saved when she was about 10 years old, a good student (Class President her Senior Year), and no troubles with boys, drinking, drugs, cigarettes or anything like that. My daughter slept on the couch upstairs after that for about 3 or 4 months. Finally, she got tired of being afraid of her own room and went back down, but she always left the lights on at night, and placed Bibles all around her room. This is no joke, I am telling you the truth.

But there's more, and things got worse.

A few months after that my wife was down in the basement where we had a laundry room. As she was folding laundry, she felt a hand on her back. She thought it was my son (about 13 at the time), as he was in the basement as well. She turned around, but my son was on the other side of the room. She asked if he touched her but he said he did not. Then about two days later my wife was down in my daughter's room when she felt someone tugging at her clothes. This frightened her badly and she rushed upstairs. She told me about it when I got home from work.

Then about two days later my oldest daughter was going down the basement stairs holding our newest daughter on her hip (about 1 1/2 years old). Suddenly she felt a hand trying to push her down the stairs. It was very awkard, as she was holding the baby and trying to resist being pushed down. There was a handrail she held onto. My daughter told me that the baby was also striking out at this invisible person.

Well, that was it, our family was in a real panic. My wife and children were looking to me to solve this problem. Quite frankly, this thing was scaring the death out of me, I could barely stand to go down in the basement myself. Our assistant Pastor lived the next street over, I went to his house and knocked on the door. I told him that he was going to think I was crazy, but there was some invisible person or demon in our house and could he please cover over and pray. And he knew I was sincere and came right over. He talked with us awhile. He said if this was happening, then it was happening with God's permission. That really upset me and I told him so. Why would God want something like this in a Christian home? But anyway, he did pray with all of us, and we did not have another incident after that.

About a year later we moved out of that house and have never had another incident. But I have to tell you, I worried that thing would follow us.

So, that is my story. You can laugh and make fun or whatever, I don't care, I was there, this really happened and I will never change my story.

I don't know, but I actually think this "invisible person" as we called it came on the airplane with my daughter's friend and then stayed in our house. We all came to believe that this thing was female, don't know why, but we all got that impression. This was a terrible experience, it is not something you ever want to deal with. We just wanted that thing gone.

Don't play with these things, it is not a joke.

Well I believe you. You do not know the things I have seen from floating heads giant bats, 12 foot shadowy being as black as night and smoking trees all here in the mission field. how much more in the States?

The floating head was in my house. I sat up and tole it, "my Lord rebuke thee. Leave my house and never return". it never came back that I know of

Yep, it's no joke with me either. This is going to sound nutty, but I can tell immediately if an evil spirit/devil enters within the house. Usually I am a bit suprised because it doesn't happen very often, and there seems to be no pattern to their coming (though there is always one lingering around idols. No joke). The first thing I notice is that something malevolent is very near. It's unmistakable for me. Then I will often times begin to notice movement out of the corner of my eye. Usually it doesn't get this far since I've learned that if I pray and rebuke it, it goes away. I've never had one that remained after prayer and a verbal "the Lord Jesus Christ rebukes you".

So I guess the moral of the story is, don't goof around with the occult, and trust in the Lord to fight these fights for you if you do encounter such a devil.

For Jesus' sake,
Stephen

My family used to have a 'cottage' which was really a veery old farmhouse literally in the middle of the woods, no electricity, closest neighbor 2 miles, yada yada. Although I was just a youngster at the time, there was definately an evil spirit manifesting there too. I won't recount the details of it, because those of us who beleive in spirits always listen to these things with eager fascination. At the time my parents were Christians, but didn't know much about dealing with such things.
Later on, back in the city, there was something that would visit me in dreams, I'd wake up and it would be present in my room with me, distoring my eyesight, the room was so black, and it was like I was trying to grasp a spherical oobject too large to hold. It was terrifying, and by then my parents knew enough to pray about it, it eventually stopped happening.
Then, one evening alone in my appartment as an adult, I woke up and felt the very same thing as when I was ten years old. By this time I knew much more about unclean spirits, and I bound, rebuked and told it to leave in the Name of Jesus Christ, and immediately it was gone. I went right back to sleep.

This all opens a topic of discussion I've been interested in, not having cemented the Biblical truth about yet: I'm still unsure of the scriptural stand on such issues. I've read material on both sides of the fence, about binding and loosing, exorcism and deliverance.
Strangely, amid the KJO sphere, one can USUALLY expect to find truth from KJ-based teachers, but on this particular topic, I find the camp devided.

Suffice it to say, in tune with this thread, that dabbling with the occult, even things as silly as fortune cookies, is an open door for the enemy.
Lord knows how much legal ground I once gave to the enemy through drugs, heavy music, lusts, etc.
Anyways, I will now search the forums to see if there is another thread on this topic and post there, allowing others to get back to arguing the various flavours that those odd rice cookies are available in :)

I want to thank all of you for listening to my story and not ridiculing me. I do not tell many people this story for fear they will think I am some sort of whacko or superstitious person, or that it will affect my credibility. Trust me, I am a very down to earth person, rather boring really. :)

You know, I've always believed in devils or unclean spirits because the Bible says they exist, but it is almost unbelieveable when you have an experience like this.

I have had several other very honest and godly Christians tell me some very strange stories like this.

And believe me, I tried to be as brave as I could during this experience, I constantly reminded myself that;

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

the reason I have discovered we don't see them regularly is it is educated out of us. the story of your small child flaying at the spirit that was trying to trip your daughter. your daughter could not see it but the small child could. Lack of education.

here are some scriptures on the practice of dealing with evil spirits. it tells us those who go around constantly rebuking devil are in their flesh. we cannot attack Satan or his devils directly but as the angel fighting for Moses body

2Pe 2:10-12 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

And

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

the key is to let them now the Lord Has rebuked him or it. for truly he has and we are just the vehicles to remind him just as Michael was. we are not to fight these devils in our own strength you will end up receiving another spirit.

I know you have a cat, brother.....is the cat sensitive to the presence of the evil spirit, too?

A friend of mine (unsaved) also has had experiences similar to the ones that have been recounted in this thread. I'm not at liberty to share what I've heard, but I heard enough to know it's very real and not to be trifled with!

Two years ago I attended a catholic water baptism on behalf of a friend. I was sickened being in that cathedral.
Aside from all the other interesting things I noticed (Eye of Horus at the top of the dome, building built by the Knights of Columbus, revolting statues of Mary, etc), I witnessed a strange phenomenon that ties into what brother Chette was talking about.

That sweet baby was quiet as a mouse the whole time leading up to the actual ritual. Then, strangely, when and only when, that 'priest' came close to the baby, it began to shreik and cry. Whenever the 'priest' moved away, out of the child's eyesight, he quieted right back down again. This repeated itself at least five times, especially during the actual 'baptism' and marking of the cross, etc. The entire rest of the day and the reception afterwards, the baby was cute as could be, giggling away.

Its long been held. that animals can sense such spirits, and surely babies or young children can as well.
Enough to make me want to carry a baby around like a coal-miner's canary!

When living in VA. several years ago, one of my best friends told me this. She is a Sunday School teacher at the Methodist church,she teaches teenagers,and one of the girls is the daughter of the preacher. She had a Birthday sleep over one friday night, and one of the girls brought games, one game was teaching them 'how to levitate'...so they experimented with it and they claimed it actually worked! None of the girls had ever did this before.

They were scared and stopped..started another game..when inside the room,no window or door open, a 'wind' came through the room and knocked several things around...birthday cards off the mantle, and the one her dad gave her, went flying across the room. The girls started praying and soon tried to sleep..WITH THE LIGHTS ON!
That sunday, they told my friend and she was able to lead them in prayer, renouncing what they did,asking forgivness, and they promised never to get involved with occult things again.
I know several of the girls and believe them...trully there are things christians should NEVER mess with.:amen:

Nope, not that I recall. The cat usually doesn't like to be confined in the room when I shut the door so she's not usually in here except during the day.

Another thing to consider is that usually I notice their being around before they even get near my room. I can often times sense something outside the house. It's a sick feeling in my gut and I can't shake it. I feel like if I look out my window it will be staring in the face! I hate it. I don't know why they come around, but I know they always flee when rebuked. Also, I've awoken twice to being held down on the bed by something I couldn't see, and both times I tried to scream but was unable to (I may be a Christian who completely trusts in the Lord, but when you wake up in that situation it's terrifying). Also, both those times I could sense that whatever was holding me down was mocking me and was completely malevolent. And both times whatever it was left when I pleaded for the Lord to rebuke the devil. This has led me to believe that it is never our voice that the devils listen to. It is always our trusting in Christ to save us that saves us.

Peace and Love,
Stephen

EDIT: I think I've mentioned this before, but one of those two times was when my father gave me a fertility idol he had brought back from South Africa. I knew the moment he gave it to me there would be problems. I took the thing and decided to be rid of it in the morning. This was a mistake which I believe John wanted to spare us from: Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. (1 John 5:21 KJV) Suffice it to say, I got out my 22oz framing hammer and smashed the thing to near powder and threw it across the street! LOL

In 2007 while in VA visiting our sending church. a friend gave us a newly purchased home to stay in for the few months while we were there. Sometime during the first week we were all asleep in the same room I awoke to the sound of what sounded to be a woman crying. I sat up believing Tata was crying in the other room. I cried out her name to see where she was so I could go to her. She answered from the bed behind me. she had been sound to sleep.

I immediately asked Jesus to bind it and remove whatever spirit there was in the house. We never heard it again and we had no other instances. I dare not try and do anything in my strength against devils. I just trust the Lord to fight these battles.

Just a few months ago, three girls here were having a sleep over. a spirit woke them up in the place where they were. one of them was a baptist and she approached the spirit and began talking to it. the next thing they knew she was cursing and speaking in a mans voice and to this day she is not right.

now it was beleived she was saved but Paul does indicate in 2Cor 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

This would indicate Christians can receive another spirit after receiving the Holy Ghost. so trying to talk to them or carry on in any way would allow you to receive it. so care needs to be taken when devils come a round.

I know a pastor here in our affiliation that told me he doesn't need to study his Bible. (he laughed at me for studying so hard). Because a spirit comes every night at midnight and teaches him the scriptures. I assumed he may have meant the Holy Spirit and dismissed it. but then he taught numerous errors from the pulpit one which stands out to be a total heresy and that was, "It is ok for married couple to watch pornography in the privacy of their own home".

Later while visiting one of his members they had an soft porn cartoon playing and the kids were watching it. they turned it off when they saw that I was troubled because they watched it. that was after his teaching.

We no longer work with that Pastor and started our own church. I did bring it to the attention of a leader in our affiliation. the point is he had received another spirit and it was giving him his instructions to the Bible.

That is just truly awful. Though I don't think a Christian can recieve another spirit "into" himself after he is reborn into Christ. But I think we can recieve such a spirit into a position of influence in our lives just like we can recieve a guest into our homes to talk and eat with us. Nevertheless your story is awful and makes me feel ill. I'm glad you were able to witness this and report it.

For Jesus' sake,
Stephen