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lei-kjvonly 02-25-2008 01:31 PM

What about the CCM movement
 
What do you guys think about Contemporary Christian Music?

Luke

jerry 02-25-2008 02:10 PM

It is the music of the world with the label "Christian" attached. Being contempory doesn't make it wrong in itself - there are some sound artists out there that are sold out, doctrinally sound and separated to the Lord. Though generally speaking, CCM is Rock in all its forms, Country, or soft rock-sounding Southern Gospel. Even its praise and worship is soft to medium rock with a drum backbeat.

If you study out the various groups within CCM, you will typically find groups that are ecumenical (yoking up with unbelievers and/or all that calls itself Christian), doctrinally unsound (anything from SDA's, charismatic, Catholic, New Age, or someone who just does not know the Bible), no separation (groups that listen to secular rock themselves, long hair on men, short hair on women, tattoos and piercings, skimpy or grunge clothing), immorality and drug/alcohol abuse, pornography addiction. I am not saying all these groups do all of these things - I am saying I have not found ANY CCM groups that do not fall into one or more of these categories. For example, Sandi Patti committed adultery with a backup member of her band for 4 years before divorcing their own spouses and marrying one another. Yet this whole time she produced soft rock albums that ommitted the name of Jesus Christ - yet Christendom wants us to believe that this music is somehow pleasing to the Lord. She was committing abomination while producing it - I believe every time we play that music, it is a stench in God's nostrils.

Paladin54 02-25-2008 06:06 PM

Oh, how easily the masses are decieved! My friends show me these big huge Christian bands and I don't even have to hear their music-I just look at their photos and say "These are Christians?"

About hair, should (real) worship music fit under the circumstances of prayer or prophecy as demonstrated in I Corinthians 11?

jerry 02-25-2008 06:23 PM

The artists should be obeying Scripture. If they are unwilling to do so, should we be entertained or spiritually influenced by their music? Satan has had 6000 years to corrupt music - we need to remember that.

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

lei-kjvonly 02-25-2008 11:35 PM

I myself am not for CCM but I'm trying to find ways to combat it with some of my coworkers, so I would appreciate some different view points.

timothy 02-26-2008 06:02 AM

The problem I have with listening to these music is that they lead me back to listening to secular music. So I just avoid it...

lei-kjvonly 02-26-2008 10:14 AM

I agree into looking into the background of some artists in order to find out about their music, but what if someone doesn't have that capability? Can you find scripture to condemn or outline some music standards? Another thing is if you lean on for example "that man's background is wicked," I'm pretty sure that someone could find something wrong with the artists that wrote music we listen to. It may be great music, but if we stand on that viewpoint then we probably can't listen to much music since we are all sinners right? So my point is, is that a strong or sound argument? I also have used the argument "that music sounds like the world's music." People just tell me that is not true. The argument causes me to lean on my own logic instead of the Word.

jerry 02-26-2008 12:15 PM

If you are backslidden or in unrepentant sin, is God pleased by the songs you write in the flesh during that time? Of course not - He obviously is not your influence while your heart is hardened by your sin. In the Bible He spoke through holy men of God. David wrote his Psalms when he repented of his sins - not while he was in the midst of them. I am not referring to some artist that had some sin in their past - but referring to those who produce music in a backslidden state (ie. going through the motions).

Beth 02-26-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lei-kjvonly (Post 805)
I myself am not for CCM but I'm trying to find ways to combat it with some of my coworkers, so I would appreciate some different view points.

I had to stop listening to CCM altogether because it was playing with my emotions. I don't need any help in feeding the flesh!

I now listen to the sacred hymns. It's hard to believe that at one time I thought this music was boring. Now I love it!!

I guess in the past I was use to the squishy music that made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Now if I happen upon it on the radio, I am disgusted and turn it off right away. It's so gooey sweet, it's hard for me to listen to now. just as well! Amen!

Check out this radio website. I don't like all of the music, but I keep it on and when I come across something I like I buy the cd, so my edifying-music-in-Christ library is growing.
http://www.oldchristianradio.com/

The more I listen to this music, the more I love it and the more I hate CCM!

lei-kjvonly 02-26-2008 09:11 PM

I gotcha now Jerry. that's a good point.

thanks,

Luke


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