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IC@KJV 11-10-2008 04:10 PM

New Here. Which Kjv Bible To Use??
 
Hello!

I am new to reading the KJV Bible, and I read from these posts that the Nelson KJV isnt the "right" one as they have alexandrian tendencies. (Nelson KJV is the one I have).

So my question is this: Which KJV Bible is best to use (cambridge, oxford, etc...)?? where can I buy it??

I would like a larger Bible, with bigger letters and words of Christ in red. So can someone please point me in the direction that I need to go.

Also is there a book, dictionary, etc... that I can use with the KJV?? (something other then swordsearcher).

Thank You

God Bless:)

MC1171611 11-10-2008 06:42 PM

Check out Local Church Bible Publishers (http://lcbplansing.org/Home) for good, inexpensive Bibles. I've had their Bibles for years and I'm continually impressed by how high their quality is. They should have something like you're looking for.

As far as other books to use, a Webster's 1828 Dictionary is good to have around, as well as a Strong's or Vine's concordance. The thing to remember, however, is that Scripture is given by inspiration, but not dictionaries or concordances. At the end of the day, the King James Bible should be one's final authority, and not the dictionary's definition or some person's comments on the Scriptures.

Just_A_Thought 11-10-2008 06:57 PM

Just an idea here...
 
Do you have e-sword? It is a free site with some stuff you can buy if you so choose. They give as much away for free if they legally can. You can download the KJV plus the KJV1611 if you like for free. If comes with the KJV in the first download along with Strong's concordance. This gives the definition that come with the definition of the original Hebrew or Greek. You can also download an old Websters Dictionary too, again for FREE! (See why I like it so much?) I am not sure which KJV they use though. I know this is not the Bible you are looking for since you want one you can carry around but I figured it would be good, free study tools so you do not need to purchase a concordance or dictionary. The website is http://e-sword.net

stephanos 11-11-2008 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_A_Thought (Post 11608)
Do you have e-sword? It is a free site with some stuff you can buy if you so choose. They give as much away for free if they legally can. You can download the KJV plus the KJV1611 if you like for free. If comes with the KJV in the first download along with Strong's concordance. This gives the definition that come with the definition of the original Hebrew or Greek. You can also download an old Websters Dictionary too, again for FREE! (See why I like it so much?) I am not sure which KJV they use though. I know this is not the Bible you are looking for since you want one you can carry around but I figured it would be good, free study tools so you do not need to purchase a concordance or dictionary. The website is http://e-sword.net

He doesn't need any lexicons!!! :mad: The King James Bible defines itself!

IC@KJV Your on a good path friend. MC1171611 gave you great advice. Local Church Bible Publishers sells fantastic Bibles, and the Webster's 1828 Dictionary is a great dictionary, although Bibleprotector would disagree :p The next book you might want to get is "The Language of the King James Bible" by Gail Riplinger. https://shop.avpublications.com/prod...7ae79061563435 This is a fantastic book will help you see how:

* The King James Bible contains God's Built-in Dictionary, defining each word, in its context, using the very words of the Webster's and Oxford English Dictionaries !

* The King James Bible has a vocabulary and reading level which slowly builds progressively from Genesis to Revelation.

* The King James Bible uses words with the appropriate sound symbolism. It has a vocabulary that phonaesthetically fulfills the Bible's own description of itself as "powerful."

* The King James Bible is the only extant access we have to the pure language lexicons of the 16th and 17th centuries.

* The King James Bible gives a transparent view of the Greek and Hebrew vocabulary, grammar and syntax.

* The King James Bible has internationally recognizable vocabulary and spelling.

* The King James Bible uses literary devices which enhance doctrinally important concepts and memorability.

* The King James Bible has a sentence structure which enhances accurate doctrinal interpretation.

* The King James Bible's words and sentences are patterned and woven through its fabric so as to provide a consistency of form and content.

* The King James Bible has the precision and longevity of the legal document that it is. (To be equitable all English speaking persons must be judged by the same criteria.)

:eek::eek::eek:

So there you go, with a good Bible, a good dictionary, and Riplinger's book on the KJB's language, you'll be well on your way to being a bonified KJB expert :D

By the way, welcome to the forums :)

Much Love in Christ Jesus,
Stephen

Jeff 11-11-2008 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_A_Thought (Post 11608)
I am not sure which KJV they use though. I know this is not the Bible you are looking for since you want one you can carry around but I figured it would be good, free study tools so you do not need to purchase a concordance or dictionary. The website is http://e-sword.net

The "Pure Cambridge Edition" is available for e-Sword (the regular edition just states that it's 1769): www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE_e-sword.zip

One thing I like about the PCE is the paragraph divisions the one included with e-Sword doesn't have.

What I didn't like was a sapce between the name LORD or GOD and the period when the Name was at the end of a sentence so that a verse might end up looking like this:

Quote:

Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor
bear any grudge against the children
of thy people, but thou shalt love thy
neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD
.


(With the period on the next line due to word-wrapping) I was able to fix that for my use with MS Access find and replace.

Just_A_Thought 11-11-2008 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephanos (Post 11635)
He doesn't need any lexicons!!! :mad: The King James Bible defines itself!

He asked what a good dictionary would be. Another poster recommended Websters Dictionary. I told him where he could find it. You need to relax. I did not make a negative remark about the KJV so I am not sure why you are trying to defend it.

bibleprotector 11-11-2008 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_A_Thought (Post 11608)
If comes with the KJV in the first download along with Strong's concordance. This gives the definition that come with the definition of the original Hebrew or Greek.

So, the King James Bible doesn't have the full definition of the Hebrew and Greek? And the Strong's lexicon is going to give a better meaning?

No.

stephanos is right:

Quote:

He doesn't need any lexicons!!! The King James Bible defines itself!

bibleprotector 11-11-2008 07:19 AM

Clearly, the PCE in e-sword was made by a third party. At least we know that the www.swordsearcher.com program is reputable and reliable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 11637)
The "Pure Cambridge Edition" is available for e-Sword (the regular edition just states that it's 1769): www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE_e-sword.zip

One thing I like about the PCE is the paragraph divisions the one included with e-Sword doesn't have.

What I didn't like was a sapce between the name LORD or GOD and the period when the Name was at the end of a sentence so that a verse might end up looking like this:



(With the period on the next line due to word-wrapping) I was able to fix that for my use with MS Access find and replace.


Just_A_Thought 11-11-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bibleprotector (Post 11642)
So, the King James Bible doesn't have the full definition of the Hebrew and Greek? And the Strong's lexicon is going to give a better meaning?

No.

stephanos is right:

I stated the Webster's Dictionary was avalable for free. He asked about dictionaries. You really need to take a breather. I know you want to "fight for the Word of God" but there is no attack on it's way from me so RELAX! In no way does using a dictionary threaten the Bible (unless the dictionary lies and most KJVO'ist like old Webster's dictionaries.) :rolleyes:

Just_A_Thought 11-11-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IC@KJV (Post 11591)
Also is there a book, dictionary, etc... that I can use with the KJV?? (something other then swordsearcher).

Thank You

God Bless:)

For both posters who went on the offensive for me suggesting a free site and that Websters Dictionary was on it please take note...HE ASKED FOR IT! That is all I have to say. Thank you and have a wonderful day. :)


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