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biblereader 06-05-2009 05:28 PM

Looking for Books
 
Can any of you recommend any good audiobooks, or regular books, that will give me an unbiased history of the Puritans, their lives, customs, and all that?
Plus, a book about Oliver Cromwell.

Anybody know any titles, have read any books about these topics?

biblereader 06-05-2009 05:29 PM

Why was Cromwell so important, and why are liberals against Puritans?

Gord 06-05-2009 08:24 PM

www.christianaudio.com

They offer a free audio download each month if you sign up. You will occasionally get what your looking for with the monthly free, there prices are ok, if you want to be specific, a large library.

CKG 06-05-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by biblereader (Post 21686)
Can any of you recommend any good audiobooks, or regular books, that will give me an unbiased history of the Puritans, their lives, customs, and all that?
Plus, a book about Oliver Cromwell.

Anybody know any titles, have read any books about these topics?

http://www.baptistchristianworldview.com/clip.htm

http://www.baptistchristianworldview...estruction.htm

PB1789 06-06-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by biblereader (Post 21686)
Can any of you recommend any good audiobooks, or regular books, that will give me an unbiased history of the Puritans, their lives, customs, and all that?
Plus, a book about Oliver Cromwell.

Anybody know any titles, have read any books about these topics?


Hello Biblereader. Yep. There are some titles and a couple of websites that will be helpful to you.

http://www.graceandtruthbooks.com/puritans or add the word "puritanism"

"A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life. by J.I. Packer Crossway Books

"A Puritan Golden Treasury of Quotations". by I.D.E. Thomas Banner of Truth Trust

"The Genius of Puritanism" by Peter Lewis Reformation Heritage Books

"Meet the Puritans": With a guide to Modern Reprints. by Joel R. Beeke, Randall Pederson Reformation Heritage Books

"Worship of the American Puritans" by Horton Davies and "Worship of the English Puritans" by Horton Davies Soli Deo Gloria Books { btw- the title doesn't mean that the Puritans should be worshiped... had to stipulate that... never know who might misread the posts on a website.}

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Per Oliver Cromwell --- you might want to look at this website:

http://www.olivercromwell.org/oliver_cromwell_bib.htm They list some titles and they also have some bigraphical information, and historical information.

If you read stuff by Roman Catholic historians or secularists/God-haters/ and any relatives/pals of King Charles 1st of England... it will be slanted against Oliver Cromwell and the Army of Parliament. Cromwell was a Protestant-Puritan-Christian and was a member of The House of Commons of Parliament ( the forerunner to our U.S. Congress ) , and did not like the pro French/pro Roman Catholic leanings of King Charles.

That was the time of the English Civil War. Puritan Theologian John Owen served as Cromwell's Chaplain. John Bunyan, the writer of Pilgrim's Progress and The Holy War, and several other titles, served in the Parliamentary Army. They won and eventually King Charles was put on Trial and found guilty. He was executed. Rather than have one of Charles' relatives take the throne (and be advised by the same Romish-Papist-Jesuit types ) , Oliver Cromwell took the Title of "Lord Protector" and governed with the help of Parliament for about 20 years. Cromwell also led a expedition into Ireland to round up Roman Catholic rebels.

So to answer your question... or at least point you in the correct way... Cromwell was disliked by the Papists/Jesuits of his day and age and he is disliked and disparaged by the lefto-socialist/atheist-communists of this day. Why ? Because he stood for God and the Bible against bad rulers and bad religion. He held , and much of the then sitting Parliament (Commons) held to the idea that Christians should be involved in governing the country, because Christ told his followers to be "Salt and Light". That idea gives shivers to the secularists and humanists and the marxists and atheists in the media and academia.

biblereader 06-06-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PB1789 (Post 21709)
If you read stuff by Roman Catholic historians or secularists/God-haters/ and any relatives/pals of King Charles 1st of England... it will be slanted against Oliver Cromwell and the Army of Parliament. John Bunyan, the writer of Pilgrim's Progress and The Holy War, and several other titles, served in the Parliamentary Army. Cromwell was disliked by the Papists/Jesuits of his day and age and he is disliked and disparaged by the lefto-socialist/atheist-communists of this day. Why ? Because he stood for God and the Bible against bad rulers and bad religion.

Thank you everyone, for all this, thanks so much! Yes, I know Cromwell is hated, even to this day, and it's near impossible to find much on him, that's NOT against him, due to the workings of sin and the devil against him.
I didn't know Bunyan was in the army! Was he in it WITH Cromwell?
I was pretty sure, though, if I asked around in here, I'd get some good leads, and pro-Cromwell sources.
Thanks a lot. Cromwell is someone Ive been interested in for about a year, now.:spy:

biblereader 06-07-2009 06:34 AM


The coming destruction of the Baptist people? I don't understand the connection btwn that book, and Cromwell's biography.
Please explain.

biblereader 06-07-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gord (Post 21694)
www.christianaudio.com

They offer a free audio download each month if you sign up. You will occasionally get what your looking for with the monthly free, there prices are ok, if you want to be specific, a large library.

:( No results came up in there, for either Oliver Cromwell, or for Puritans.
Am I doing something wrong?

biblereader 06-07-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PB1789 (Post 21709)
Hello Biblereader. Yep. There are some titles and a couple of websites that will be helpful to you.

http://www.graceandtruthbooks.com/puritans or add the word "puritanism"

"A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life. by J.I. Packer Crossway Books

"A Puritan Golden Treasury of Quotations". by I.D.E. Thomas Banner of Truth Trust

"The Genius of Puritanism" by Peter Lewis Reformation Heritage Books

"Meet the Puritans": With a guide to Modern Reprints. by Joel R. Beeke, Randall Pederson Reformation Heritage Books

"Worship of the American Puritans" by Horton Davies and "Worship of the English Puritans" by Horton Davies Soli Deo Gloria Books { btw- the title doesn't mean that the Puritans should be worshiped... had to stipulate that... never know who might misread the posts on a website.}

----------- ------- ---------------- ----------- --------- ---- ----

Per Oliver Cromwell --- you might want to look at this website:

http://www.olivercromwell.org/oliver_cromwell_bib.htm They list some titles and they also have some bigraphical information, and historical information.

If you read stuff by Roman Catholic historians or secularists/God-haters/ and any relatives/pals of King Charles 1st of England... it will be slanted against Oliver Cromwell and the Army of Parliament. Cromwell was a Protestant-Puritan-Christian and was a member of The House of Commons of Parliament ( the forerunner to our U.S. Congress ) , and did not like the pro French/pro Roman Catholic leanings of King Charles.

That was the time of the English Civil War. Puritan Theologian John Owen served as Cromwell's Chaplain. John Bunyan, the writer of Pilgrim's Progress and The Holy War, and several other titles, served in the Parliamentary Army. They won and eventually King Charles was put on Trial and found guilty. He was executed. Rather than have one of Charles' relatives take the throne (and be advised by the same Romish-Papist-Jesuit types ) , Oliver Cromwell took the Title of "Lord Protector" and governed with the help of Parliament for about 20 years. Cromwell also led a expedition into Ireland to round up Roman Catholic rebels.

So to answer your question... or at least point you in the correct way... Cromwell was disliked by the Papists/Jesuits of his day and age and he is disliked and disparaged by the lefto-socialist/atheist-communists of this day. Why ? Because he stood for God and the Bible against bad rulers and bad religion. He held , and much of the then sitting Parliament (Commons) held to the idea that Christians should be involved in governing the country, because Christ told his followers to be "Salt and Light". That idea gives shivers to the secularists and humanists and the marxists and atheists in the media and academia.

This was most helpful! Thanks for the link.

biblereader 06-07-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PB1789 (Post 21709)
Hello Biblereader. Yep. There are some titles and a couple of websites that will be helpful to you.

http://www.graceandtruthbooks.com/puritans or add the word "puritanism"

"A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life. by J.I. Packer Crossway Books

"A Puritan Golden Treasury of Quotations". by I.D.E. Thomas Banner of Truth Trust

"The Genius of Puritanism" by Peter Lewis Reformation Heritage Books

I'm looking up some of the books, now, and would like your input:
Whom do you feel is a better author, Firth, or Buchanan, or Gardiner?
Also, I see an author by the name of P. Young: P. Young, Oliver Cromwell (1962). I wonder if he's the same man who wrote "The Shack".?

Have you read any of these books, listed on the site:
J. Buchan, Oliver Cromwell (1934) is an elegant study, C.V. Wedgwood, Oliver Cromwell (1939) reflects the author's outstanding narrative skills, R.S. Paul, The Lord Protector (1955) is particularly strong on Cromwell's personal faith and religious policies,

The one by R.S. Paul sounds like what I'm looking for. Are you familiar with it?


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