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aussiemama 11-06-2008 10:03 AM

Christian Horror
 
There is a new movie coming out soon called "House" by Frank Peretti and Ted Dekker. I like the look of some of the stuff these men have produced, but with this I do feel weird about the idea of "Christian Horror" like it might be a contradiction or something. What do you guys think?

Luke 11-06-2008 01:04 PM

I have (um.. actually, borrowed, and never returned) one of his novels, The Oath, I think. I didn't read it all.. I'm not much for fiction, but my dad did, and it was the only Christian thing he ever read. I was thinking of getting him some for Christmas, since if I get him anything overtly Christian, it won't go down well, but I am not sure if this is the same thing as "Christian Rock" - using some worldly thing to win the lost...

I did see one of F.P's movies.. the Hangman's Curse or something. It was pretty garbage. I don't remember a gospel message in it or anything like that, and it turned out the bad guy wasn't the devil, but just some spider (sorry if I ruined it for anyone haha ). Not that I wanted to see the devil or anything, but after the whole movie and the kids and the occult, it seemed a bit of a let down "Oh hey guys, all that evil stuff we did, it turns out it was just a spider biting people and it was all a huge coincidence so I guess the occult isn't real after all". Anyway, that's how I remember it.

Biblestudent 11-06-2008 05:52 PM

"Christian" horror? :eek:
"Christian" rock?
What's next?
"Christian" disco?
"Christian" porno?
"Chriistian" gambling?

Just a thought:rolleyes:

Jeremy 11-06-2008 08:08 PM

It makes about as much sense as Christian Fiction. I have witnessed Churches using Guitar Hero 3 to bring children into church. That seems to be about as absurd as Christian Horror.

aussiemama 11-07-2008 08:00 AM

Wow so you guys think it is wrong to read good, decent Christian fiction? I guess you are the type of Christians that think it's wrong to have any kind of fun because smiling is somehow wrong for a Christian...wow. I can understand being against the "Christian horror" because I'm not sure I even like the idea myself, but slamming Christian fiction reeks of Phariseeism.

Biblestudent 11-07-2008 09:03 AM

aussiemama, you're post kind-a triggered me to "react"

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Originally Posted by aussiemama (Post 11282)
Wow so you guys think it is wrong to read good, decent Christian fiction?

We read and performed a lot of it.:) (Recently, the Pilgrim's Progress)

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Originally Posted by aussiemama (Post 11282)
I guess you are the type of Christians that think it's wrong to have any kind of fun because smiling is somehow wrong for a Christian...wow.

Who believes it's wrong to smile?:confused: We might be the ones who smile more than anyone here.

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Originally Posted by aussiemama (Post 11282)
I can understand being against the "Christian horror" because I'm not sure I even like the idea myself, but slamming Christian fiction reeks of Phariseeism.

You're "not sure" whether or not you like "Christian horror", but I'm not also sure why you are "slamming" the word "Phariseeism" to others who are against it.


Fiction may include horror, and horror can be fiction; but fiction is not horror, and horror is not fiction.

Some fiction does not include horror, and nonfiction (such as the fact of Hell) can be horror!

Brother Tim 11-07-2008 09:36 AM

As the little girl stroked the mule's nose, she said, "You must be a very good Baptist, because you have such a long face."
:o

Rightful_Thinking 11-07-2008 11:07 AM

I read Christian fiction as a teenager (Grace Livingston Hill and Emily Loring) and have enjoyed a lot of Christian fiction as an adult. I think like any hobby that can cross over to an addiction, one has to be careful. I remember becoming so absorbed in the writings of Brock and Bodie Thoene that I found myself constantly reading instead of doing other things, even reading fiction instead of my Bible, and I couldn't wait until the next book came out.

IMO, as in many things that can be seen as "of the world", it's a matter of personal conviction. I like a lot of contemporation Christian music and as far as Christian rock music goes, we can judge by fruits. If God is using it to bring a certain element of society back to Him and if it glorifies God, how can it be bad? But on the flipside of the coin, if you can't tell the difference between a particular *Christian* medium and a secular one, how can it be good?

I've enjoyed Frank Peretti's books and my kids love his youth books. I've never seen any of his movies, but I'm not really a movie-goer. It seems though that if you watched a movie and couldn't really tell it was Christ-based or if it had no message, then I don't think it would be something I'd want to go to.

P.S. -- interesting website on this subject: http://www.focusonfiction.net/ with a Frank Peretti interview here: http://www.focusonfiction.net/html/frankperetti.html

aussiemama 11-07-2008 11:18 AM

Biblestudent, absolutely NOWHERE did I say that not liking "Christian horror" was Phariseeism. In fact, it's so absurb I have no clue how you read that into my post. I'm guessing because you wanted to. What I did say was that being against Christian FICTION (read it carefully, coz I didn't say horror there) reeked of Phariseeism. I don't care for much Christian fiction, but I do like some. Someone appeared to be indicating that they thought the idea of Christian fiction at all was ridiculous, and that was what my post was in response to. Something just doesn't sit right about the whole "Christian horror" idea.

Here Am I 11-07-2008 11:34 AM

I don't think that anyone is condemning 'Christian fiction' in a blanket manner. There's some good stuff, and some not-so-good stuff.

I've read a couple of Frank Peretti's books. I've also read most of the 'Left Behind' series. As it has been stated here, if what we read gets between us and God, or if it teaches false doctrine, then we should beware of it, just like anything in our lives that keeps us from our Lord.

atlas 11-07-2008 11:36 AM

HAI,

Do you like Hal Lindsey's " Christian fiction? "


Atlas

Here Am I 11-07-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by atlas (Post 11294)
HAI,

Do you like Hal Lindsey's " Christian fiction? "


Atlas

I don't know, I haven't read any.

atlas 11-07-2008 11:44 AM

HAI,


It was a joke. If you knew him you'd understand.


Atlas

Here Am I 11-07-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by atlas (Post 11297)
It was a joke. If you knew him you'd understand.

Sorry I missed it. ;)

I'm a bit sheltered, I think. Since I got saved, I have spent most of my time in the Bible and reading books by Brothers Ruckman, Grady, Larkin and Sister Riplinger. I have read very little 'Christian' fiction. The name Hal Lindsey rang a bell, but I don't know what books he has written without going to google.

I still read some secular fiction, but some of my most favorite books I have given away, because when I read them, they grieve me with their position re: Christians/Christianity and my Lord. It didn't used to bother me.

Biblestudent 11-07-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiemama (Post 11291)
Biblestudent, absolutely NOWHERE did I say that not liking "Christian horror" was Phariseeism. In fact, it's so absurb I have no clue how you read that into my post. I'm guessing because you wanted to. What I did say was that being against Christian FICTION (read it carefully, coz I didn't say horror there) reeked of Phariseeism. I don't care for much Christian fiction, but I do like some. Someone appeared to be indicating that they thought the idea of Christian fiction at all was ridiculous, and that was what my post was in response to. Something just doesn't sit right about the whole "Christian horror" idea.

aussiemama, thanks for explaining that.:)

Jeremy 11-07-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiemama (Post 11291)
Someone appeared to be indicating that they thought the idea of Christian fiction at all was ridiculous, and that was what my post was in response to.

You can call me by name. Lol :D
My girlfriend likes to read novels by blackwell and copeland. I am not against these things. When reading something that is supposedly christian or has references from the Bible, i want it to be true and accurate,there is too much fiction in the pulpits. Some people are getting there doctrine from Christian Fiction,and it causes confusion. The church i went to had a library full of fiction,even on the end times,prophecy etc.. why would i want to read that,when it is revealed to us in a non-fiction book called the Bible,that is why i think it is ridiculous. People are free to see or hear what they want,its just not for me. As far as Christian Horror is concerned,people in churches do not want to hear all the bad things in Revelation,too graphic i guess?:confused:
If i want something non christian to read i crack open the latest Hot rod,Pontiac enthusiast,High Performance Pontiac and Chevy,Muscle car review,Hot Rodding or even Jegs engine master challenge magazines.

kittn1 11-08-2008 12:16 PM

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If i want something non christian to read i crack open the latest Hot rod,Pontiac enthusiast,High Performance Pontiac and Chevy,Muscle car review,Hot Rodding or even Jegs engine master challenge magazines.

Hehehe

Hey Jeremy-

Your avatar told me that much;)

Luke 11-09-2008 01:54 PM

Aren't those car magazines usually full of half naked women?

Brother Tim 11-10-2008 08:27 AM

I wouldn't have a clue!

Jeremy 11-10-2008 09:19 AM

There are no woman in these magazines whatsoever.

Jeremy 11-10-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by atlas (Post 11297)
HAI,


It was a joke. If you knew him you'd understand.


Atlas

I don't understand,Atlas,maybe a little explanation?:)
He is one of 2 televangelists left that teaches anything on Prophecy,the other being Jack Van Impe.There are no others that i would trust.

kittn1 11-10-2008 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 11512)
There are no woman in these magazines whatsoever.


lotsa (car) bodies.......none of 'em female...........

(btw Jeremy, I worked in automotive for over 15 yrs and my dh is a "vehicle technician"....and no, I'm not sure if I'm braggin' or complainin' ;))

Jeremy 11-10-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 11514)
I don't understand,Atlas,maybe a little explanation?:)
He is one of 2 televangelists left that teaches anything on Prophecy,the other being Jack Van Impe.There are no others that i would trust.

Hals program from last night: http://hallindsey.org/

Jeremy 11-10-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kittn1 (Post 11517)
lotsa (car) bodies.......none of 'em female...........

(btw Jeremy, I worked in automotive for over 15 yrs and my dh is a "vehicle technician"....and no, I'm not sure if I'm braggin' or complainin' ;))

This is off the subject,but i think you can appreciate it,since you have worked in the automotive field for 15 years. The second car,Jerry sipes 67firebird,is my avatar.
http://www.truveo.com/Lucas-Oil-Huge.../id/3202343059
Mike Voycey lives in Canada and races a black 67-8 firebird,he can stand that thing on the bumper as well. Anyway,back to the show.

Rightful_Thinking 11-12-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 11523)
This is off the subject,but i think you can appreciate it,since you have worked in the automotive field for 15 years. The second car,Jerry sipes 67firebird,is my avatar.
http://www.truveo.com/Lucas-Oil-Huge.../id/3202343059
Mike Voycey lives in Canada and races a black 67-8 firebird,he can stand that thing on the bumper as well. Anyway,back to the show.

Speaking of Christian *horror* and speaking of racecars, etc.

I have a '65 Nova project car with a $5K racing engine that's been taking up half of my garage for five years. Just sitting.

I dream of the day this *horror* disappears!

:D


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