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chette777 04-27-2009 11:16 PM

Swine Flu Outbreak?
 
why is the MSM pumping this story up. Claiming it is Pandemic But there are only 50 cases as of today. that is one for each state int he union hardly an epidemic or pandemic in any way.

The only other time I have seen such Media hype is when they are trying to take the eyes of the American people off something else. Like they did during the Elections.

Brothers remain vigilant to what they are not wanting us to see. Maybe they may cause the death of some people and blame it on the swine flu as they did in 1909(date?) or there is something they want to push through the house and senate that if we are not watching will fly by, and we all will say, "when did that happen":spy: or they may use this as a avenue for Martial Law to curfew and keep everyone in their homes until the danger is over. or maybe the fact that the dems just sealed the deal on Obama's next budget plan and will pass it again without reading it.

slight of hand work was not just used by heretics using the word of God, but the media are very good at is as well.

Brother Tim 04-28-2009 07:19 AM

An average of 35,000 people die EACH YEAR from the flu. The media just needs another crisis to report on.

BornAgainBibleBeliever514 04-28-2009 01:25 PM

Oh my gods! Another horrible virus? killers and bad guys and terrorists?
I will run to my gods of comfort, money, entertainment, substance, sports, even my government to save me! I'm so afraid!!!

not. :scared:


2Sa 22:3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

We need to stop fearing this stuff.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Hbr 13:6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Winman 04-28-2009 06:22 PM

I think there are several reasons the media tries to terrify the public like this. A few years back they used to call it an "epidemic". I think people got used to the word and it did not frighten them much anymore, so a few years ago they started saying PANDEMIC. :eek:

One reason is easy, money.

1 Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Every year people spend billions of dollars on flu shots because the media terrifies them. What most people don't know it that most flu vaccines are made from the 3 most likely strains (how they figure this out I don't know) to appear. If you happen to come down with one of these strains, then the vaccine will probably indeed help you. If you come down with any of the many hundreds of other strains, the vaccine will not help, and may in fact make matters worse.

The current strain going around is not in the current vaccine, so if you rush out and get a shot, it will not protect you from this strain at all.

And they always say you cannot get sick from a vaccination, but I know of many people who say otherwise. A fellow I work with got the flu shot a few years back. He said he was feeling perfectly fine and healthy when he got the shot, but within hours got terribly ill. He said it was the sickest he's ever been in his life, and he will NEVER get another flu shot again. And when I was a boy I witnessed my father get a vaccination and get terribly sick within a few short hours. I will never forget, he was literally in convulsions. So I have to admit, I am biased against these shots since my youth.

But as Chette mentioned, I also think this is a open door for the government to quarantine people, or declare martial law. I almost believe it is preparing people's minds to accept the government rounding up people who might present a threat or danger to society. Of course, it is the government who determines what this threat or danger is.

The flu has been around forever and always will be. The best thing you can do is wash your hands, eat a good healthy diet and get a good night's sleep. Then your body will have strength to fight it off, and even if you get it you will recover more quickly.

Gord 04-28-2009 06:34 PM

Remember, the media promoting this hype, are the same folks who give sodomites equal air and press time.

"Not worth the paper it's written on" should be changed to "Not worth the media it's seen, heard, or read on".

chette777 04-28-2009 07:36 PM

here is the update from the mouth of the Obama administration, "Government tells public not to panic — but warns that Americans likely will die in swine flu outbreak" hem, seems there is a plan already in place?

the deaths in Mexico are a tragedy but most who died were in hospitals with poor hygienic facilities. anyone who has eve visited some of the hospitals in Mexico know what I am speaking of. if not come here to Palawan I will show you one here. it recently got an upgrade but it is over crowded and filthy.

despite the fact that so many die each year who contacted a flu virus in true it is also misleading as many originally get the virus but develop other complication that are really the culprit of the death and not the flu bug. Most will die of things like pneumonia (water in the lungs) or other complications, because of the weaker condition brought on by the flu.

geologist 04-29-2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chette777 (Post 18838)
here is the update from the mouth of the Obama administration, "Government tells public not to panic — but warns that Americans likely will die in swine flu outbreak" hem, seems there is a plan already in place?

Government conspiracy? This government is not smart enough to engineer anything other than 100 mistakes in 100 days.

I noticed that the pork producers are urging the Agriculture Department to call it something other than "swine" flu, because they are loosing business because some people believe you can get it from eating pork. (If that was true, than both houses of Congress would be fully infected) <smile>

In Israel, they are refusing to call it "swine" flu and are calling it "Mexican flu" (more proper). Actually, this virus contains genetic material from 1 swine, 2 birds and 3 humans. Perhaps it should be called the "when pigs fly" flu!:pound:

I'm waiting for someone to start a rumour in the Arab world that if they get infected they will end up with pig DNA in their body, making them unclean. That should generate a fatwa or two.

Bro. Parrish 04-29-2009 08:26 AM

Media hype aside, you have to respect the danger of the virus.
If not for the monitoring of the CDC, modern medical efforts and the grace of God, many of us could easily be wiped out by an unusual virus. Case in point; the 1918 influenza stain wiped out between 50 and 100 MILLION people---and almost half of those were young healthy adults 20–40 years of age. We are still treating drifted descendants of the 1918 virus to this day. So, once you get past the nonsense, you can be sure---the medical community is monitoring viruses for good reason. More here:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol12no01/05-0979.htm

Tandi 04-29-2009 06:27 PM

Swine Flu Outbreak Could be Linked to Smithfield Factory Farms

http://www.truthout.org/042809K


Very interesting comments from people below the story. Try a google search of Smithfield Factory Farms. Why is the MSM not covering this angle?

chette777 04-29-2009 09:27 PM

Bio-engineering?

Al Queda did try Anthrax engineering in Northern Africa that killed all who were in that cell so quickly they couldn't even spread it to others. They were found dead from their camp to the train station and everywhere in between.

Salmonella cultures (many of them) can be made by anyone right in their kitchen using a egg, room tempts and a spoon (to help carry the culture) ever wonder about the Salmonella outbreaks?

Flu virus would have to take a bit more clean room tactics and we have certainly trained and educated more foreigners in bio-chemical engineering than any other country especially those of Middle-eastern back grounds.

It is not impossible. but for it to take on a combination of Swine, Bird and Human it would have to been bio-engineered.

KingSolomon1611 04-29-2009 09:53 PM

Sneezing Mexicans will be the new terrorists. I will be paying cash to the Mexicans in our Hispanic ministry to sneeze in public. Does anyone remember watching an old prank video from a while back where a guy would get behind people and acted like he was sneezing and spray the back of their neck with a spray bottle? That would be hilarious:pound:

Tandi 04-30-2009 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chette777 (Post 18920)
Bio-engineering?

..........It is not impossible. but for it to take on a combination of Swine, Bird and Human it would have to been bio-engineered.

According to this report, it is swine only:


http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...winefluupdate/

Excerpt:

Quote:

The samples from California are the same viral strain as one that’s believed to have killed as many as 150 of an estimated 1,600 hospitalized Mexicans, and caused hundreds more infections worldwide, including at least 64 in the United States.

The two strains whose genes are found in the hybrid belong to influenza families known generally as North American and Eurasian pig flu. The former was first described in the 1930s, and the latter in 1979. The Eurasian strain is generally found in Europe and Asia, rather than North America.

Neither of the strains have ever proven contagious in humans. One of the genes inherited from the Eurasian strain has reportedly never been seen in humans. It codes for the neuraminidase enzyme — the N1 in H1N1 — which controls the expansion of the virus from infected cells.

“The new neuraminidase gene that came in from Eurasian swine is one we’ve never before seen circulating in humans,” said Rambaut. “That’s one of the reasons it’s spreading rapidly. Very few people will have any immunity to this particular combination, which is what gives the concern that this will be a pandemic rather than just a normal seasonal flu outbreak. It remains to be seen how much and to what extent there is existing immunity.”

In medical terms, the genetic origins of the virus may not matter. Whether it come solely from pigs rather than a mix of pigs, birds and humans doesn’t change its immunological novelty.

However, understanding the origins could eventually help scientists determine how the virus evolved and where it originally emerged.

The earliest cases occurred in the town of La Gloria in the Mexican state of Veracruz, not far from a large and notoriously unsanitary hog farm operated by Granjas Carroll, a subsidiary of giant American food company Smithfield Foods.

Vercruz residents and some journalists have alleged that the virus could have evolved in the farm’s pigs, then passed into humans through water or insects tainted by infected waste. Many researchers, including the authors of a report issued last year by the Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production, have warned that unsanitary conditions at industrial hog farms could prove a breeding ground for new forms of influenza.
The problem in a pandemic is that hospitals will be overwhelmed with people needing to be on breathing machines......not enough to meet the demand.

The immune systems of the young and healthy go into overdrive when a new strain comes along, making them sicker than babies and the aged whose immune systems are weaker.

My grandfather died in the 1918 pandemic.

I took the "swine flu vaccine" in 1977 and got sick for weeks from it. More people died from the vaccine than the flu in that outbreak. Many had serious lingering effects for months or years. I have never taken another vaccine and would not take one this time.

I opened my Bible to Psalm 91 the other day. I prayed it!

chette777 05-01-2009 10:39 PM

Ok Now the media is starting downplay the flu Pandemic.

so let's go back over the week they had it so much to the forefront and see what happened behind the scenes.

1) a photo op in NY
2) Dem's approved Obama's budget(still needs to pass congress)
3) down play of the torture of a Afghan by a prince of UAE
4) Alfonzo Rachel's released his version of an old rolling stones song entitled "under my Bus" Hilarious check it out PJTV.
5) Numerous communist leaders meeting together with Middle Eastern leaders.

What was it all about really?

Jeremy 05-04-2009 10:18 AM

It only took about a week for the news media to cause a panic among people.

chette777,i wonder the same things as you. What was behind it all?

kittn1 05-06-2009 12:59 PM

:flypig: swine flu :flypig: now, when will the cows come home? :flypig:

:rolleyes:

chette777 05-08-2009 08:20 AM

Something I just learned but sometime in the last two weeks. they past a bill that if it can be proven that your preaching from the Bible causes some one to commit a hate crime against homosexuals you can be held liable.

A stipulation also claims that if you preach against Homosexuality you could face charges of harassment or civil rights violation.

Could this be what our eyes were taken off while the MSM had everyone looking at the Swine flu nonsense?

Jeremy 05-08-2009 08:12 PM

There was a meeting may 5th 2009 in Marion,Iowa discussing the issue of hate crimes against homosexuals.
They are trying to make it illegal for pastors to preach on this subject.
I have not heard anymore about it this week.

Fred Phelps is giving christians a black eye with his hate tactics. It doesn't help the christian cause,that's for sure.
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/default.asp

Yes,homosexuality is an abomination.
Leviticus 18v22:
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

However,these people need to know the Lord also.

Romans 5v8:
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.


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