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greenbear 06-20-2009 10:45 AM

BK sponsors Columbus Woman's Clinic
 
Stopped by for a Jr. Whopper yesterday and there was a sign on the counter with this picture announcing BK's corporate sponsorship of the Columbus Woman's clinic.

I asked for the manager and politely told him I would not give BK my business any longer because of this sponsorship. He gave the corporate line that this sponsorship in no way means that BK advocates for or against abortion. Women go to a woman's clinic to learn more about their options in the case of an unwanted pregnancy and get unbiased advice. Yada yada yada.

The "artwork" is a study unto itself. It strikes me as having some definite witchcraft symbolism as well as symbolism contrived to appeal to catholics (the heart shape). What about strangling hands? The baby's life is in the woman's hands? The baby comes from Gaia, etc. Since it seems obvious the picture is meant to symbolize a baby emerging from the womb, it's also interesting that it would appear to be a breach birth. That subliminally causes anxiety in the woman making a decision whether to go through with the pregnancy rather than kill her child; the breach imagery subliminally communicates the idea that the baby is a danger to the woman's health or life.

http://columbustwc.com/wp-content/up...ds-150x150.jpg

http://columbustwc.com/

Here's Burger King Corporate contact information:

Bus. hours: M-F 9-5 EST.

Corporate Offices:
Burger King Holdings, Inc.
5505 Blue Lagoon Drive
Miami, FL 33126
(305) 378–3000

Consumer Relations
Consumer relations line: (305) 378-3535


Providing link to Columbus Women's Clinic in case there is any question that they are abortion providers:

http://www.twccolumbusonline.com/

Correction: Columbus Women's Clinic website does not specify that they are
abortion providers. I will contact them during business hours to confirm
this.

Bro. Parrish 06-20-2009 12:43 PM

I admire your decision to stand up for the unborn.
Just to confirm, are you sure they offer abortions, their services page does not list it. They seem to be offering factual information on it as an option but I may be wrong...

greenbear 06-20-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish (Post 22413)
I admire your decision to stand up for the unborn.
Just to confirm, are you sure they offer abortions, their services page does not list it. They seem to be offering factual information on it as an option but I may be wrong...



Yeah, I think you're right about that, Brother Parrish. Their site doesn't say they offer abortion services. It appears that they are just part of the feeder network for the abortion mills. Thanks for the correction. :)

Bro. Parrish 06-20-2009 09:59 PM

Oh no problem, as I say I am very pleased to see you take a stand on it.
I sincerely rejoice as you continue your defense of the unborn, God bless...

chette777 06-20-2009 10:41 PM

oh and I do so love a whopper with cheese

greenbear 06-20-2009 11:31 PM

If their fries were any good it would be a struggle.

greenbear 06-24-2009 11:51 AM

I called The Women's Clinic of Columbus and they said they don't provide abortions. They do provide free pregnancy testing and free ultrasounds and free counseling. Below is a quote from their website:

Quote:

If you’re pregnant and a baby isn’t part of your plans, you might be considering an abortion. Give us a call and get all the facts before you decide if an abortion is right for you. Remember, we’re here to help! All our services are confidential and free of charge.
http://www.twccolumbusonline.com/

Bro. Parrish 06-24-2009 12:39 PM

Good follow up, glad you called them.
I had a feeling because I noticed their website goes into some gruesome detail on describing the abortion procedures, and that is usually not like an abortion provider. We actually have one or two women's clinics in our area which offer tests and so forth but they are actually run by pro-lifers sort of operating in "stealth mode." Most people would probably never know it until you got there and they start to counsel the young girls on the pain of abortion. I feel a little better about getting that Whopper now... ;)

greenbear 06-24-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish (Post 22717)
Good follow up, glad you called them.
I had a feeling because I noticed their website goes into some gruesome detail on describing the abortion procedures, and that is usually not like an abortion provider. We actually have one or two women's clinics in our area which offer tests and so forth but they are actually run by pro-lifers sort of operating in "stealth mode." Most people would probably never know it until you got there and they start to counsel the young girls on the pain of abortion. I feel a little better about getting that Whopper now... ;)

Thanks Bro. Parrish. Messing up on my last current events thread fortunately reminded me to follow up on this one.

I wasn't aware there were "stealth" pro-life women's clinics. It makes sense to do that, though. Do you think this could be one of them? I'm not really focused that much on the abortion issue, although I am absolutely opposed to abortion. I wouldn't want to support it in any way. It is comforting to know that these babies go straight to the Lord.

What are your thoughts about the photograph on their poster in my first post?

Bro. Parrish 06-25-2009 08:08 PM

I don't know my friend, my first impression was the shape of a heart. I did not see that as a breach birth but now that you mention it I guess that could certainly be implied. Then again, I'm not looking through a woman's eyes, so maybe it wouldn't hit a man the same way but you sure have a point because that's what it looks like. I have learned to have a lot of respect for the eye of a woman, especially with regard to things like this. :)

Diligent 06-26-2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenbear (Post 22720)
What are your thoughts about the photograph on their poster in my first post?

My first impression was that it was a pro-life photograph, with the hands forming the shape of a heart around baby feet.

greenbear 06-26-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diligent (Post 22826)
My first impression was that it was a pro-life photograph, with the hands forming the shape of a heart around baby feet.

My sense that we are entering into a fascist form of government in this country with presidential fiat replacing the rule of law and large corporations falling into line informed my perspective with this ad at Burger King, especially considering Obama's apparent pro-abortion agenda. I could definitely be wrong about this BK thing, though.

I wasn't aware of "stealth" clinics but I'm very glad to find out about them. Also, I could probably find subliminal messages and even occult symbolism in a lot of corporate advertising because they're so often present. The "heart" shape comes from pagan religion but so many things in our culture do that it doesn't necessarily mean it is intended to have that meaning. I wouldn't be surprised to learn of a catholic connection to the women's clinic considering the heart.

When I called the clinic I asked if they do referrals to abortion providers and the woman I spoke with said they don't, which is encouraging. Hopefully, I was dead wrong and they are what Bro. Parrish termed as a "stealth" clinic.

Fortunately for me, I don't have any problem being wrong because I try to be more concerned with learning what the truth is about things.

Maybe I don't have to do without the occasional Whopper, after all. :)

JaeByrd 07-02-2009 11:40 AM

There are a lot of other organizations pertaining to pregnancy/newborns/pregnancy loss that have very similar themes: Heart, hands, feet, belly, etc.

A lot of photography studios offer some sort of pose that is also similar. Very popular since the gal that takes all those newborn photos published some. Hands forming a heart on a pregnant belly, or hands holding a newborn, newborn hands on a parent's hand, newborn in a parent's hands, etc.

greenbear 07-03-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeByrd (Post 23140)
There are a lot of other organizations pertaining to pregnancy/newborns/pregnancy loss that have very similar themes: Heart, hands, feet, belly, etc.

A lot of photography studios offer some sort of pose that is also similar. Very popular since the gal that takes all those newborn photos published some. Hands forming a heart on a pregnant belly, or hands holding a newborn, newborn hands on a parent's hand, newborn in a parent's hands, etc.

JaeByrd,

I really appreciate you adding your perspective about this picture being along the lines of popular symbolic poses for baby pictures in general. That makes sense to me and makes me think, along with brother Parrish's "stealth clinic" post, that this is probably all pretty innocent. A big corporation supporting a pro-life woman's clinic during a pro-abortion president's administration? Hard for me to believe but it's good news! Anyway, thanks for the info. :)

Jennifer

JaeByrd 07-04-2009 05:29 PM

It might just be me, but from the brief scan I did of places that support abortion they tend to steer away from including anything BABY related in logos etc as it is all about the WOMAN and her choices. That and to them it isn't a baby anyway. The photo of the hands, heart, baby feet are things that are going to make most people think of holding on, love, and little babies.

greenbear 07-04-2009 08:04 PM

Well, I googled abortion and clicked web images; don't do that. I feel sick. The pro abortion websites I looked at do focus on women; pictures of vibrant young women, descriptions of unborn babies as unnamed objects, how abortion is pro life, an Ayn Rand quote... No pictures of precious little babies, though.

Bro. Parrish 07-06-2009 03:38 PM

Yes it is a nasty business for sure... :(


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