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Biblestudent 04-13-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish (Post 18033)
George,
Rest assured my brother, anytime we get any slimy Bible correctors on this forum I will always put the gloves on and join you in the ring (we will tag team them together)... :boxing: Brother Chette can be the referee... :)

:D:D I'll be scorekeeper!

Winman 04-13-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Psalms 133:1... "A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!"
Amen brother! :)

When I was a young man just out of High School I worked in a lumber yard, with 4 or 5 fellows the same age. Didn't pay much, but man we loved the hard physical work and being outdoors most of the day. It was a great job.

We had a new guy start and he couldn't get along with anybody. All he did was moan and groan and complain about everything all the time.

One day this fellow was complaining and I told him to shut-up. I know that's not very Christian, but this fellow could really get to you. Well.... this fellow came right at me and took a swing grazing my cheek, to which I reactively gave him a nice open hand slap in the face. But he came right back at me, swinging over and over again. He would telegraph his punches, so I easily bobbed each punch, and each time I gave him another slap in the face. The other guys were all there and were laughing loudly at this fellow who really didn't have much fighting skill. I bet he swung at me at least 10 times, missing, and receiving a slap from me each time.

But I tell ya, I was really impressed with this guy. He was losing badly, but there was no quit in him whatsoever. He just kept coming at me.

Finally, I put my hands up and said I didn't want to fight anymore. The other guys were still laughing at this fellow, but I told them to stop, cause this guy did not give up. He couldn't fight well, but he was tough and had lots of heart.

Anyway, that's an old geezer tale, I'm old enough I get to tell them. But from that moment on, this fellow and I became the best of friends. I would go over to his house, and got to know his whole family. And he stopped complaining after that.

Sometimes you have to fight with someone first to be friends. :)

Renee 04-13-2009 05:01 PM

Mind and Body,

I praise the Lord that "fued" (for lack of a better word) is over between you and George. Believe me his bark is worse then his bite. I have learned at his feet for 48 years, and he has been a blessing to me.

His purpose is to edify and bring people to the truth in/of God's Word. He may sound hard at times but it is only because we know that "all His works are done in truth".

We believe much in the doctrine of reconcilation and I am glad to see it practiced here.
Stephanos has been a blessing to me in much of his post now. I got hard on him a couple of times before. I pray the Lord will give us wisdom as we continue to post and that we post all truth in wisdom, giving honor to God our Father.

In Christ Love,
Renee

Brother Tim 04-13-2009 05:46 PM

Of George's "bark", from someone who knows him well :) :
Quote:

Believe me his bark is worse then his bite.
Considered how loudly he can bark, that is still really not very comforting. :D ;)

Forrest 04-13-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winman (Post 18132)
Amen brother! :)

When I was a young man just out of High School I worked in a lumber yard, with 4 or 5 fellows the same age. Didn't pay much, but man we loved the hard physical work and being outdoors most of the day. It was a great job.

We had a new guy start and he couldn't get along with anybody. All he did was moan and groan and complain about everything all the time.

One day this fellow was complaining and I told him to shut-up. I know that's not very Christian, but this fellow could really get to you. Well.... this fellow came right at me and took a swing grazing my cheek, to which I reactively gave him a nice open hand slap in the face. But he came right back at me, swinging over and over again. He would telegraph his punches, so I easily bobbed each punch, and each time I gave him another slap in the face. The other guys were all there and were laughing loudly at this fellow who really didn't have much fighting skill. I bet he swung at me at least 10 times, missing, and receiving a slap from me each time.

But I tell ya, I was really impressed with this guy. He was losing badly, but there was no quit in him whatsoever. He just kept coming at me.

Finally, I put my hands up and said I didn't want to fight anymore. The other guys were still laughing at this fellow, but I told them to stop, cause this guy did not give up. He couldn't fight well, but he was tough and had lots of heart.

Anyway, that's an old geezer tale, I'm old enough I get to tell them. But from that moment on, this fellow and I became the best of friends. I would go over to his house, and got to know his whole family. And he stopped complaining after that.

Sometimes you have to fight with someone first to be friends. :)

Great story, brother. And so true. I must confess though, I too laughed. It must have been a sight! :pound:

Bro. Parrish 04-14-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winman (Post 18132)

Anyway, that's an old geezer tale, I'm old enough I get to tell them. But from that moment on, this fellow and I became the best of friends. I would go over to his house, and got to know his whole family. And he stopped complaining after that.

Sometimes you have to fight with someone first to be friends. :)

Hahaaaa,
You know that's a great truth, I can think of at least two of my best friends to this day and we started out in fights way back in grade school... :D

What does that say about human nature... :confused:

chette777 04-15-2009 01:43 AM

M&B,

did you get some good info from the verses we gave concerning who may or may not go to hell?

Mind and Body 04-15-2009 06:21 AM

Yo Brother Chette,

I sure did. The thing is, there certainly are Catholics whose hearts are truly with the Lord. But Christ calls them (His people) out of the Catholic Church. But, even if a person believes in their heart, if they deny Jesus before men, how can they be saved? Christ said that whoever would be ashamed of Him before men would He be ashamed of before His Father.

tonybones2112 04-15-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mind and Body (Post 18189)
Yo Brother Chette,

I sure did. The thing is, there certainly are Catholics whose hearts are truly with the Lord. But Christ calls them (His people) out of the Catholic Church. But, even if a person believes in their heart, if they deny Jesus before men, how can they be saved? Christ said that whoever would be ashamed of Him before men would He be ashamed of before His Father.

M, if their hearts are truly with the Lord, they won't deny him. But Peter did. The rest did. Do you know what saved Peter and the rest of the terrified apostles as they fled, their leader arrested and condemned in their own hearts?

1John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Grace and peace

Tony

greenbear 05-15-2009 07:33 PM

Some people are brought up in church and have preconceived notions of who Jesus is, what the Bible teaches, what it takes to be saved, etc. Throughout my life as an agnostic, honestly not even knowing or caring what an agnostic was, whenever my mind started to ponder "the origins and purpose and meaning of life" other mundane, worldly thoughts would immediately take center-stage.

When I was in my late twenties a Seventh-Day Adventist co-worker said something to me, I don't even remember the conversation, but it made my mind snap. It was the first time that I was consciously and acutely confronted with the possibility that Jesus was a real historical figure, not some fictitious character. That was just the beginning.

I read the Bible a bit but it was goobly-gook. Couldn't make hide nor hair of it. I joined the SDA church and read plenty of Ellen White. The problem was that I couldn't stop eating meat and working and spending money on Saturday (The "Sabbath"). I think it was when I read that EW wrote that even tea drinking could be allowing the flesh to control you that I finally gave up. I was still drinking a beer or two every night. What hope could there be for someone like me? After about a year of this I realized that I was not good enough or strong enough to be saved so I just gave up and embraced the philosophy of eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die. At least I realized what a hypocrite was!

I don't want to bore you for too long so the rest of my story is the short version. I had managed to read a good portion of the Bible including Revelation after my SDA experience and vaguely understood that Israel was key to end-time events. Bush I's Iraq war and the images of the burning oil fields somehow struck a chord with me and for some reason that drove me to Christian bookstores and to church.

I ended up at a pentecostal church and was baptized in a lake at the foot of a nuclear power plant!!! Once I came back ashore all these men were trying to get me to speak in tongues as evidence that I was saved. I wasn't able to conjure up any strange, unintelligible words so they actually suggested that I just try saying any sentence that came to mind over and over again. I felt bad that I wasn't able to produce anything that they wanted to hear. Oh, well.

Since I came up short in that arena, I contacted a woman from the SDA church that I truly loved, because I knew that she loved me, and found that she was attending the Vineyard church. I attended that church for a while but I was perplexed and dismayed because they would sing verses about the Father and the Holy Spirit but they would ALWAYS skip the verses about Jesus. My spirit wanted to praise Jesus, I didn't understand why. Their pastor would pray for the mantle of the spirit to cover the congregation. I could feel the mantle descending but it was not something I liked.

I wanted to understand prophesy but no one whom I asked, and I asked plenty, had any answers for me. They all said just pray to the Lord for understanding. So I did. Within a month or so I met my husband. He was a kindred spirit who had a hunger for understanding the scriptures. His teachers were Hal Lindsay, Dave Hunt and many others. This intelligent and truth-seeking man had the answers I was looking for. The lies that I had grown up with, evolution, feminism, my whole world view, everything, was replaced by the truth.

My journey was easy compared to those who were raised in satanic/illuminist families who suffered ritual abuse beyond our ability to comprehend. Or those who delved into occultism of their own accord ( I skipped that part of my story).

Jesus can bring anyone out of anything if the person has even a centimeter of good ground. The way he deals with every single person on earth is truly astounding. Praise His Name.

That said, no salvation can be found in Babylon. And God doesn't have any grandchildren.

chette777 05-16-2009 06:22 PM

Greenbear,

His Grace and Mercy are sometimes beyond our understanding and past our finding out. Just keep on reading the KJV.

If you trusted Christ for your salvation then you are saved. No tongues needed, your baptism into Christ is spiritual no outward signs will be visible. But you will know because the Word of God becomes more clear and the Holy Ghost begins to move in your life to teach you the word, convict you of sin and gives you a heart to tell others of what Jesus Has done for you.

greenbear 05-16-2009 10:12 PM

Thanks for your kind response, chette777.

Back in the mid-90's? I heard a christian radio program railing against a book called "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger. Always the contrarian, I knew I had to get a copy of that book. I went to a christian bookstore to inquire about purchasing the book and the owner said, "If you asked me for poison to drink, I wouldn't give it to you; neither would I sell you that book!" So I ordered it online.

Although I already preferred the KJV for it's belles lettres when I saw the attack on doctrine in the copyrighted versions I put away my NIV, NKJ, et al, and stopped with the parallel Bible study. I hope to explore the question on this board of whether it is an inspired version, or a faithful translation of the textus receptus. Either way, I have no doubt that God has faithfully preserved His Word through the ages on earth.

My entry into christianity some years ago was confusing but the Lord faithfully leads His children into all truth as far as they are willing to follow. My understanding of scripture really started to take off when I discovered dispensationalism. So much confusion was wiped away with the simple concept that not all books of the Bible were addressed to the Church.

This seems to be a more serious board than others I've visited. Hopefully, this will be an impetus to start studying more. I'm very interested in discussion of doctrinal and prophetic topics. My husband and I feel so strongly about KJVO that we can't attend a church that doesn't see it the same way, right or wrong. We just can't bring ourselves to listen to other translations knowing the facts about them.

greenbear 05-16-2009 10:42 PM

retraction?
 
My entry into christianity some years ago was confusing but the Lord faithfully leads His children into all truth as far as they are willing to follow. My understanding of scripture really started to take off when I discovered dispensationalism. So much confusion was wiped away with the simple concept that not all books of the Bible were addressed to the Church.

I can see how my statement might be offensive to non-dispensationalists. No offense intended this is just what I believe scripture teaches. I'm not perfect after all; I could work on my diplomacy skills a bit. :sorry:

George 05-17-2009 08:37 AM

RE: " Do Roman Catholics Go To Hell?"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greenbear (Post 19928)
My entry into christianity some years ago was confusing but the Lord faithfully leads His children into all truth as far as they are willing to follow. My understanding of scripture really started to take off when I discovered dispensationalism. So much confusion was wiped away with the simple concept that not all books of the Bible were addressed to the Church.

I can see how my statement might be offensive to non-dispensationalists. No offense intended this is just what I believe scripture teaches. I'm not perfect after all; I could work on my diplomacy skills a bit. :sorry:

Aloha sister,

Don't worry about your "diplomacy skills". :) If you "speak the truth in love" [Ephesians 4:15], and some are offended - that's their problem! :confused:

Your testimony "rings true" ("the Lord faithfully leads His children into all truth as far as they are willing to follow"), and I believe that you are sincere in your search for the truth, so always speak from your heart and don't worry about the "naysayers". The Apostle Paul didn't "temper" his speech out of concern for "gnat strainers", and neither did the Lord Jesus Christ.

Their are plenty of Threads & Posts relating to your concerns I would suggest two to begin with:

http://av1611.com/forums/showpost.ph...19&postcount=1

The above Post is two essays written by Moses LemuelRaj (a Christian brother from India) and are among the very best that I have read (in 40 years of study) in relation to the issue of "Inspiration" of Scripture.

http://av1611.com/forums/showpost.ph...78&postcount=1

The above Link is an essay that I wrote about 36 years ago as to why I believe in the King James Bible. The essay is a "testimony" (from the King James Bible) as to what the Holy Bible has to say about the "words" of God.

And as far as "Dispensationalism" is concerned - I would venture to say that the majority of the active members on the Forum are "moderate" Dispensationalists. There are some brothers here that are not, but we love them just the same, and count them as dear brothers in Christ and fellow members of "the household of God". [Ephesians 2:19]

I had a little bit to say about "Rightly Dividing God's Word's" on the AV1611 Bible Forums about 7 months ago, and if you are interested you might check out that Thread also at this Link:
http://av1611.com/forums/showpost.ph...71&postcount=1

Welcome to the Forum sister - we are very tolerant of the brethren - UNLESS they turn out to be Bible "correctors" (or Bible "deniers"); "trouble makers"; or "Hereticks" (false teachers). We refuse to tolerate any of the preceding (at least not for very long) in accordance with the Scriptural commands:

2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word ofGod: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

Again, welcome to the AV1611 Forums - I hope that we may be of some benefit to you in your Christian walk with the Lord. :)

greenbear 05-17-2009 01:49 PM

Thanks, George. I'll be sure to read the threads you linked. I'm actually quite pleased with myself that I found this board. :) I'm not used to having the feeling that there may be a group of believers that just might be in agreement with my husband and myself on what we consider to be essential to rightly dividing the Word of Truth. I assume this board is mostly premillennial. Have to see how the board views Calvinism vs. Arminianism, both of which I reject.

1 Timothy 2.4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

-God does not restrict his offer of salvation to a select few.
-Eternal life by definition cannot be lost once received or it is a meaningless concept.

greenbear 05-17-2009 02:04 PM

George, I just read your thread on Calvinism/Arminianism. I guess we agree there, too! :amen:

Jassy 05-17-2009 04:30 PM

I am new here. I used to be Roman Catholic. I even taught Sunday School in my late teens. A friend witnessed to me and I knelt down and repeated her prayer. However, I didn't understand anything yet - nor was I truly "saved." After that point, however, I began to compare the Catholic Bible I had with the Bible the Christian friend had given me. I found many differences and was confused. The Catholics had ten commandments listed, but they weren't the same as the other Bible. The commandment about idols was missing and the one about coveting was divided into two. Very subtle yet a marked difference. After this discovery, I laid about 6 Bibles side by side (I didn't know about or have a Bible Concordance yet) and began studying in earnest. I thought that, with all the different Bibles, I was sure to get the truth. It just left me more confused!! About 5 years later, I was baptized and then I had the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I gravitated towards the KJV and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I had no problem understanding the "old English" - actually, it's quite clear, unlike a lot of the other translations! I've stuck with that version - even though people have tried to sway me into accept other versions.

Back to Catholicism. Because of the focus on many wrong teachings, if a Catholic chooses to stay with the Roman Catholic Church, at the very least, they'll be confused and, at the very worst, they'll be LOST for putting their faith in the POPE - as the VICAR (which means Jesus' representative - literally "His replacement!" on earth). This is something I cannot abide by or accept as being in any way truly Christian.

This places a MAN - a human - as one who can make changes and require that the entire church trust him, just as they would Christ.

The Roman Catholic Church changed many things along its long history, including killing Protestants during the Inquisition. Basically, it was accept the RCC or die! Many martyrs chose death.

I think that should tell us the truth of the matter. I know that I was LOST while I was still entrenched in the Roman Catholic Church.

chette777 05-17-2009 09:48 PM

Greenbear,

you will find we try to stay centered on Scripture, simple in teaching it and ardent in defending it.

There are places of solace for those of like minds. it only takes time to find them.

peopleoftheway 05-18-2009 11:03 AM

Hi there Jassy Welcome Brother/Sister?

I have replied to your other introduction thread welcoming you further but may I just ask you a simple question I picked up on from your statement above, possibly the way it was worded but I just would like to clarify..

Quote:

Originally posted by Jassy
About 5 years later, I was baptized and then I had the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I hope that you understand that we receive the Holy Spirit upon salvation and not through baptism? Baptism is a step we take after salvation, a public step of declaring we are dead, buried and resurrected with Christ, it has no saving grace nor any power to impart the Holy Spirit.

It could just be the way you typed that sentence but I would just like to clarify that.

Tmonk 05-18-2009 12:51 PM

Jassy wrote:
"The commandment about idols was missing"

I'm gonna have to ask about this one. Missing from where?

Here are two "sanctioned" Catholic English Bibles. RSV with deuterocannon I think is the other.

Exodus 20:4
NAB
You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;

Douay-Rheims
Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth.

Footnote following it in the Douay-Rheims:
4 "A graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing"... All such images, or likenesses, are forbidden by this commandment, as are made to be adored and served; according to that which immediately follows, thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them. That is, all such as are designed for idols or image-gods, or are worshipped with divine honour. But otherwise images, pictures, or representations, even in the house of God, and in the very sanctuary so far from being forbidden, are expressly authorized by the word of God. See Ex. 25. 15, and etc.; chap. 38. 7; Num. 21. 8, 9; 1 Chron. or Paralip. 28. 18, 19; 2 Chron. or Paralip. 3. 10.

Sources:
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/02020.htm

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/exodus/exodus20.htm

No offense but I'm uncertain about your remark.

Here are more:

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Never make your own carved idols or statues that represent any creature in the sky, on the earth, or in the water.

King James Bible
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

American King James Version
You shall not make to you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

American Standard Version
Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Bible in Basic English
You are not to make an image or picture of anything in heaven or on the earth or in the waters under the earth:

Darby Bible Translation
Thou shalt not make thyself any graven image, or any form of what is in the heavens above, or what is in the earth beneath, or what is in the waters under the earth:

English Revised Version
Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor the likeness of any form that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not make to thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

World English Bible
"You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Young's Literal Translation
Thou dost not make to thyself a graven image, or any likeness which is in the heavens above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth.

Source: http://bible.cc/exodus/20-4.htm

Don't take me the wrong way. I'm not calling you a liar. But I don't see where its removed from.

Jassy 05-18-2009 01:50 PM



Thank you for your reply. I think that I made a mistake and responded to you as "brother Tim" - I don't see your name at all on your posts. I'm a sister. So, I should ask you the same: brother or sister?

I appreciate your simple question and it's a very good one! I'm happy to respond to it. Yes, I do fully understand that we receive the Holy Spirit in conjunction with our salvation - not through baptism. I do know, at that point where I knelt down and just repeated a prayer, without any meaning for me, that I was NOT YET SAVED. I didn't give my heart and life to the Lord yet. But it did lead to my interest in the Bible and search for truth.

Jassy 05-18-2009 02:03 PM

Thank you tmonk. Since this was way back in 1979, that I was first witnessed to and given a Bible, and I'd had an old Catholic Bible for many years, I really don't remember which Bible it was. It may have been an old Jerusalem Bible? I am sorry to say that I'm not sure. I just remember that commandments being different, when I compared them.

Additionally, I compared some old Catholic Catecism booklets that I had with the Bible, and that was also different. I remember it had a lot about the Pope and his authority on earth and his leading of the Church and putting your trust in him as the Vicar on earth.

Fredoheaven 05-18-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jassy (Post 20011)
Thank you tmonk. Since this was way back in 1979, that I was first witnessed to and given a Bible, and I'd had an old Catholic Bible for many years, I really don't remember which Bible it was. It may have been an old Jerusalem Bible? I am sorry to say that I'm not sure. I just remember that commandments being different, when I compared them.

Additionally, I compared some old Catholic Catecism booklets that I had with the Bible, and that was also different. I remember it had a lot about the Pope and his authority on earth and his leading of the Church and putting your trust in him as the Vicar on earth.


Sis. Jassy good day and greetings from the Philippines! Not only written in their catecism but even painted in the front of their building that we can see them. Truly, they chop off the clear command of the bible in regards to the graven image as found in Exodus 20:4.

Jude1:25
www.fredsites.weebly.com

Jassy 05-18-2009 04:00 PM

Greetings Bro Fred,

Thank you for the warm greeting! I'm in the USA. I viewed your "Things that are excellent" website. Very nice! I'm happy to see Christians all around the world embracing the KJV/AV. You make a good point that the Catholic's "10 Commandments" are often in plain view for us to see the difference.

Sis Jassy

greenbear 05-18-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jassy (Post 19948)
I am new here. I used to be Roman Catholic. I even taught Sunday School in my late teens. A friend witnessed to me and I knelt down and repeated her prayer. However, I didn't understand anything yet - nor was I truly "saved." After that point, however, I began to compare the Catholic Bible I had with the Bible the Christian friend had given me. I found many differences and was confused. The Catholics had ten commandments listed, but they weren't the same as the other Bible. The commandment about idols was missing and the one about coveting was divided into two. Very subtle yet a marked difference. After this discovery, I laid about 6 Bibles side by side (I didn't know about or have a Bible Concordance yet) and began studying in earnest. I thought that, with all the different Bibles, I was sure to get the truth. It just left me more confused!! About 5 years later, I was baptized and then I had the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I gravitated towards the KJV and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I had no problem understanding the "old English" - actually, it's quite clear, unlike a lot of the other translations! I've stuck with that version - even though people have tried to sway me into accept other versions.

Back to Catholicism. Because of the focus on many wrong teachings, if a Catholic chooses to stay with the Roman Catholic Church, at the very least, they'll be confused and, at the very worst, they'll be LOST for putting their faith in the POPE - as the VICAR (which means Jesus' representative - literally "His replacement!" on earth). This is something I cannot abide by or accept as being in any way truly Christian.

This places a MAN - a human - as one who can make changes and require that the entire church trust him, just as they would Christ.

The Roman Catholic Church changed many things along its long history, including killing Protestants during the Inquisition. Basically, it was accept the RCC or die! Many martyrs chose death.

I think that should tell us the truth of the matter. I know that I was LOST while I was still entrenched in the Roman Catholic Church.

Welcome, Jassy. I've only been here several days myself. I always love to hear a Christian's personal testimony of how the Lord led them out of the darkness into His glorious light. There is fellowship among those who esteem His Word above everything in this world.

Jassy 05-18-2009 05:00 PM

Amen greenbear and thank you for the welcome!

Tmonk 05-19-2009 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jassy (Post 20011)
Thank you tmonk. Since this was way back in 1979, that I was first witnessed to and given a Bible, and I'd had an old Catholic Bible for many years, I really don't remember which Bible it was. It may have been an old Jerusalem Bible? I am sorry to say that I'm not sure. I just remember that commandments being different, when I compared them.

Additionally, I compared some old Catholic Catecism booklets that I had with the Bible, and that was also different. I remember it had a lot about the Pope and his authority on earth and his leading of the Church and putting your trust in him as the Vicar on earth.

I'm always looking for ammo against the RCC. After all there is a reason why REFORM was needed.

I will keep digging to find these things you mentioned.


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