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Old 03-20-2009, 01:55 PM
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The more you look at science, the more you realize it cannot answer the really great questions.

You need look no further than the basic elements of matter. Science cannot even explain how atoms are held together. By all the laws of nature, the basic structure should simply fly apart! The Bible teaches God holds all things together:

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Colossions 1:16-17

As I understand it, the Greek word used there is sunistemi which means "to stand-together," "to be held together," "to cohere..."

Hey Mr. Atheist---
do you know what Science says holds everything together?
Here it comes, wait for it...

"THE FORCE!"
Yep, "THE STRONG FORCE."

Sure sounds like a myth to me. Or maybe a religion?
Well, may the FORCE be with you.

Keep reading, more below from a college website...

"Remember, the nucleus contains neutrons and protons. The neutrons are electrically neutral, and so the electric force won't hold them in. Furthermore, the protons are all positively charged, and so they all repel each other. So if the electric force was the only force involved, you couldn't create a nucleus. You could try to push all those protons and neutrons together, but as soon as you let go, the protons would all shoot away from each other, and the neutrons would drift apart as well. There has to be some other force that holds protons and neutrons together.

Of course, since the electric force is constantly trying to drive the protons apart, the force that holds them all in must be stronger than the electric force. And keep in mind, the electric force gets stronger as charged particles get closer together, and the protons in a nucleus are very close together. As a result, the force that holds protons and neutrons together must be very strong. Well, in a brilliant stroke of imagination, physicists have named this force "the strong force." The strong force is a force which attracts protons to protons, neutrons to neutrons, and protons and neutrons to each other." BLAH BLAH BLAH...
http://webs.morningside.edu/slaven/P...tom/atom2.html

WHAT REALLY HOLDS THE UNIVERSE TOGETHER?
"This passage strongly suggests that the active power of God is behind the mysterious strong force that holds every atomic nucleus together. If this is so, all the other fundamental forces of nature are likewise forces that originate with Christ..."
http://www.ldolphin.org/cohere.shtml

PLEASE NOTE: that last link above was written by a retired physicist holding a degree with high honors in physics and distinction in mathematics from San Diego State University, and 30 years on the the staff of SRI International (formerly Stanford Research Institute), in Menlo Park, California. READ IT.

To quote Bro. Ruckman;
Science catches up to the Bible once in a while...
but not often.

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Old 03-20-2009, 02:27 PM
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This is the closest to the truth I've seen from a secular point of view.

Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (symbol=Gv), has one neutron , 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons , which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 to 6 years. It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration.
This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass.

When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (symbol=Ad), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:33 PM
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When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (symbol=Ad), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
LOL that is hilarious...
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:55 PM
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Aloha brother Parrish,

The following verses clarify WHO is "upholding all things" and HOW He is doing it - "By the word of His power"!

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Saviour of whosoever believeth in Him, and he gives eternal life to all those who receive Him. In addition, He also is the source of life for all of mankind, and not for mankind only, but for every living thing on this earth. I believe the verses in Hebrews compliment the verses you quoted and taken all together, they clearly lay out for all mankind, WHO it is that we owe everything to {saved or lost}.

Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:34 PM
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Aloha brother Parrish,

The following verses clarify WHO is "upholding all things" and HOW He is doing it - "By the word of His power"!

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Saviour of whosoever believeth in Him, and he gives eternal life to all those who receive Him. In addition, He also is the source of life for all of mankind, and not for mankind only, but for every living thing on this earth. I believe the verses in Hebrews compliment the verses you quoted and taken all together, they clearly lay out for all mankind, WHO it is that we owe everything to {saved or lost}.

Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
What's amazing is the method He used!

Psalms 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Psalms 33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.

That is the SPOKEN Word!
Of ALL the witnesses He gave us, conscience, creation, His Word is the most amazing of all!

Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

That includes His Words.
That is Bible presevation!

Every atom that He made that holds together the universe is
not going to last, but His Words will!

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Creation is awesome. His Words even more so.

Psalms 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:16 PM
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That is the SPOKEN Word!
Of ALL the witnesses He gave us, conscience, creation, His Word is the most amazing of all!
Even Romans 1 tells us that he revealed himself in them (us even) his eternal power and godhead. we are a trinity as he is Soul Spirit and Body

Romans 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of God is manifest
in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

I read a study that when you can get a complete vacuum and remove all physical energy sources and bring the vacuum to nil, there is still what they call Zero Point Energy. This has scientist baffled but for me it is Gods eternal power manifested the invisible that can be clearly seen.

you can read more on Zero Point Energy at http://www.setterfield.org/
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:31 PM
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Those are all great points,
thanks for your comments brothers...
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Old 03-21-2009, 08:38 AM
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They are very close to the truth there. It is not Governmentium that is composed of morons, it is GOVERNMENT.

Thanks for the great post Bro. Parrish!
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Debau,

That was great I busted my side laughing
 

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