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Old 11-11-2008, 08:22 PM
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He laid it out pretty well.
I disagree. From his post#30:
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Ham DID something to Noah, this strongly implies an act, which is more than a 'look'. If Ham only looked at him then how did Noah know it when he awoke?
How does he connect the missing pieces? Seeing his father naked then finding and telling his brothers about it IS a foul DEED/ACT. Question: How could Noah have awaken and immediately determined that it was Ham that committed an act? Without being very crude here, how could Noah even have understood what act had been done?!

A more rational understanding was that Noah awoke, heard about the words of Ham (whatever they were) from his other sons, and then cursed Ham's son. Ham had shamed his father and therefore his son would be shamed. The phrasing of "awoke, ...and knew..." could allow for time to have passed.