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Old 06-17-2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeM1023 View Post
And the word "wine" means "wine." "New wine" is a specific phrase that refers to the unfermented juice. At the wedding in Cana I believe that what Jesus made was wine, plain and simple. It doesn't say "new wine". Do you honestly believe the practice at a wedding party in that time was to serve grape juice?

Lee

Jesus could not have drunk alcoholic wine at the wedding feast, or He would have been disobeying the Bible commands concerning kings and princes.

Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink


Jesus is King, and the Prince of Peace

Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus is the KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS, and
He is The Prince of Peace. If He drank wine or strong drink,
then He would have disobeyed the Bible command for
kings and princes — which would have made Him a sinner.


1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

If Jesus was a sinner, then He could not be our Savior. He would have had to die for His own sins, because the Bible says in
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Proverbs 23:20 says that we are not to be “among winebibbers"

Proverbs 23:20 Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh:

If Jesus would have been at a wedding
reception where people were drinking alcohol, then He would have been
disobeying the Bible. That would make Him a sinner, and unable to be our Savior.


Proverbs 13:20 He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

The Bible says that a companion of fools shall be destroyed. It also says that people who drink wine and strong drink are not wise. Now if someone is not wise, what is he? A fool. The Bible tells us that a companion of fools shall be destroyed, and that people who drink alcohol are fools. So that means if a person hangs around people who drink liquor, then he will become a fool himself.

If Jesus had made alcoholic wine for a bunch of people who had already been drinking so much of it that they were drunk, then He would have been helping a bunch of drunk people get more drunk.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

The Bible says that the drunkard shall not inherit the
kingdom of God. If Jesus helped a bunch of drunk people
get more drunk, then He would have been helping send
people to hell by His miracle. If Jesus was doing things to help
send people to hell, then He was clearly sinning. If Jesus
sinned, then He could not be the Savior of the world.


Luke 19:10 says that Jesus, the Son of man, came “to seek and to save that which was lost.”

Jesus did not come to help send more people to hell — they do a good enough job of that themselves. He came to save people from their sins.

According to John 3:17, “God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”

It is very serious to say that Jesus made alcoholic wine for people that were already drunk. He did no such thing. He longs that every precious soul would turn from his/her sin to Him, and be saved.

(courtesy Brother Austin)