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Old 11-02-2008, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: "Secession"

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Originally Posted by Vendetta Ride View Post
Yes, it was. Your statement of history is accurate. I wish the Confederacy had won.

But, as the Christian Robert E. Lee acknowledged, that was not God's plan. And now that we're so close to the end, I can't believe that it's His will for us to get enmeshed in rebellion and defiance. Romans 12 is still in the Scripture, and to disregard it is to invite the chastening of God.


I don't like saying these things. I've been a patriot all my life. But I'm a Christian first: and I will not wrestle against flesh and blood. God has given us very specific information about who the real enemy is, and it's not the petty tyrants and bureaucrats in Washington!

As an Ex Barry Goldwater Conservative from the 60's and a genuine Bible believer from 1968 - I am in complete agreement with you!

I agree with your comments about McCain (who I was not going to vote for ("on principle" - until Palin), but I am not going to labor under any false "delusions" that seceding from the Union will "solve" anything.

If God is done with us as a country (something that I do not relish or look forward to ), then, outside of voting, praying, and continuing to witness as "ambassadors' for Christ" and living our lives for Christ - we might actually find ourselves fighting against Almighty God!

Paul speaks about himself as being: "the prisoner of Jesus Christ" [Ephesians 3:1; Philemon 1:1,9]. Now I doubt that Paul was "happy" about being Caesar's prisoner (I doubt that he would have thanked Caesar for tossing him in jail ), but instead of trying to break out of "Jail" or starting a "revolution", Paul figured this must be God's will" for his life and he did the best that he could with it.

I thank God for our country, but it's nowheres near the country that it was when I was born (1940), and I cannot conceive of anything that would bring it back to what it once was, with the exception of the direct "intervention" of Almighty God Himself.

Barring a miracle of God, I believe the "drift" towards the secular religion of Humanism in America may soon turn into a "rushing torrent"; and this all may be part of God's plan.

If this is so, then the freedoms, and liberties, and "rights" that we have enjoyed all of these years may soon "disappear" under a "perceived mandate" of the electorate (the "majority" is never right in Scripture) to a Democratic super majority in Congress; a Socialistic (Communist "Lite") President; and a Federal (and State) Judiciary that has seized unlawful (Unconstitutional) power and has "subverted" our system of government {based on Judeo-Christian precepts and principles} so that we are now actually living under a system of government known as an "OLIGARCHY" - where a very small minority of "unelected" Judges basically decide what is, and is not "Lawful", and who in essence have supplanted the "Rule of Law" with the "Rule of Men" (HUMANISM! ).

Does anyone honestly believe that there is anything that we can do (in the flesh) to prevent this from happening - if this all part of God's plan? I've already voted (for you know who), because I don't want my country to join the trash heap of history. On the other hand, I don't believe it would be right for me to support Obama and his ilk, in order to "help" bring about the demise of my country. {"It's not right to do wrong, in order to have a chance to do right"}

It's a dilemma we all must face (who to vote for), but I believe that, all too soon, we all may be faced with a testing and proving (as many of God's saints have undergone in the past) that none of us will be able to stand up under, unless God strengthens us and upholds us with the power of His might.

In view of all of the above, I also believe that God is gathering together genuine Bible believers from all over the world (through this Forum and others like it), so that we might comfort, succor, support, and pray for one another. I do not believe that this Forum replaces or supplants the Church of God, but there just aren't that many genuine Bible believing churches left, and so I believe that God is using this Forum as a means of encouraging the saints to continue on and not get discouraged.

Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

If this be the case for my country - then we all must go on and:

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

1 Corinthians 16:13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.